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Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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It's not necessarily because masks don't work, medical professionals use them to great success.

Mask usage at the community level does not follow the same strict policies related to mask usage that medical professionals do, like discarding them between operations.

Wearing the same mask over and over every day and removing it when you sit down to eat is a very ineffective policy.

And it's kind of an abuse of power for the government to mandate something with such weak science.

Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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We also did not have data on the types of masks being worn or on masking adherence rates in the two school districts

It is known that this is an aerosolized pandemic. Airborne. Cloth and surgical masks do not work.

Source – there are many to choose from: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067362...

The posted study on mandates has effectively no meaning. Closed FFP2/N95-style masks work. This is fact. A mandate does not make such masks magically appear on people’s faces. Therefore it is obvious that there is no effective correlation between the word “mandate” and what SARS-CoV-2 does.

Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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It's not necessarily because masks don't work, medical professionals use them to great success. Mask usage at the community level does not follow the same strict policies related to mask usage that medical professionals do, like discarding them between operations. Wearing the same mask over and over every day and removing it when you sit down to eat is a very ineffective policy. And it's kind of an abuse of power for…

This is a common misconception. The blame lies squarely on a grand failure of delivery of public health information.

Outside an industrialized hospital sanitization chain, it’s actually fine to reuse a mask – as long as it’s a mask that works against SARS-CoV-2 aerosol to begin with.

I can provide sources.

Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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We also did not have data on the types of masks being worn or on masking adherence rates in the two school districts It is known that this is an aerosolized pandemic. Airborne. Cloth and surgical masks do not work. Source – there are many to choose from: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067362... The posted study on mandates has effectively no meaning. Closed FFP2/N95-style masks work. This is fa…

> Closed FFP2/N95-style masks work.

Schools are not going to mandate this, and even if they do kids will wear them loose/wrong. So knowing that, where do school boards go from here?

Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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It's not necessarily because masks don't work, medical professionals use them to great success. Mask usage at the community level does not follow the same strict policies related to mask usage that medical professionals do, like discarding them between operations. Wearing the same mask over and over every day and removing it when you sit down to eat is a very ineffective policy. And it's kind of an abuse of power for…

Teachers unions in the US are absurdly powerful unfortunately.

Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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There’s been quite a few of these studies, all with similar results. What’s unfortunate is that the remarkable “penetration” of the idea that cloth and standard surgical masks provided “adequate” (by any measure) protection was so great and peddled by such influential persons that there are now those who, despite plain empirical evidence, still maintain masks provide some material amount of benefit.

I wonder at what point such people will began to consider the evidence in earnest, regardless of the fact that most of these mandates have thankfully been repealed.

Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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We also did not have data on the types of masks being worn or on masking adherence rates in the two school districts It is known that this is an aerosolized pandemic. Airborne. Cloth and surgical masks do not work. Source – there are many to choose from: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067362... The posted study on mandates has effectively no meaning. Closed FFP2/N95-style masks work. This is fa…

This has been known since 2020. From the beginning, the public health message could have been "protect yourself using a N-95 mask", but for some reason they went with "protect others using a cloth/surgical mask".

The only reasonable explanation I can find for this is that N-95 masks were in short supply at the time and they had to be saved for medical professionals. We needed a distraction to prevent the general public from hoarding N-95 masks.

But here we are, 2 years later, still debating whether masks with holes orders of magnitude larger than the airborne virus particles they are supposed to stop are effective.

Re: Study: Association between mask mandates and Covid infections in North Dakota

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We also did not have data on the types of masks being worn or on masking adherence rates in the two school districts It is known that this is an aerosolized pandemic. Airborne. Cloth and surgical masks do not work. Source – there are many to choose from: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067362... The posted study on mandates has effectively no meaning. Closed FFP2/N95-style masks work. This is fa…

This has been known since 2020. From the beginning, the public health message could have been "protect yourself using a N-95 mask", but for some reason they went with "protect others using a cloth/surgical mask". The only reasonable explanation I can find for this is that N-95 masks were in short supply at the time and they had to be saved for medical professionals. We needed a distraction to prevent the general publ…

> whether masks with holes orders of magnitude larger than the airborne virus particles they are supposed to stop are effective

N95 masks work due to a dipole charge, not necessarily because of the mechanical filtration size.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7724761/

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