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Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

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This is really cool. Rampant cheating is the reason I completely abandoned playing chess, so nice to see something happening.

Where did you experience rampant cheating? I don't remember any particular problems back when I played on ICC in my middle/high school days, and modern equivalents like chess.com and lichess seem to do a relatively good job at catching cheaters. I might have just gotten lucky though.

Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

#4

This is really cool. Rampant cheating is the reason I completely abandoned playing chess, so nice to see something happening.

How do you cheat at chess? Serious question… there are fixed rules that govern the game, certainly a piece of software or in the human case 3rd party observer should be able to enforce them? In other words, given a list of moves, you can write a program that returns `valid` if the set of moves is allowed or `invalid` if it is not, no?

Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

#6

This is really cool. Rampant cheating is the reason I completely abandoned playing chess, so nice to see something happening.

Perhaps you could clarify what you mean by cheating?

Probably isn't very good and chalks it up to cheating. Chess takes years to get good at. It's a slow slow grind.

Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

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post #4

This is really cool. Rampant cheating is the reason I completely abandoned playing chess, so nice to see something happening.

How do you cheat at chess? Serious question… there are fixed rules that govern the game, certainly a piece of software or in the human case 3rd party observer should be able to enforce them? In other words, given a list of moves, you can write a program that returns `valid` if the set of moves is allowed or `invalid` if it is not, no?

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Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

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post #4

This is really cool. Rampant cheating is the reason I completely abandoned playing chess, so nice to see something happening.

How do you cheat at chess? Serious question… there are fixed rules that govern the game, certainly a piece of software or in the human case 3rd party observer should be able to enforce them? In other words, given a list of moves, you can write a program that returns `valid` if the set of moves is allowed or `invalid` if it is not, no?

There are multiple permissible moves. Cheaters use a computer to identify the best one.

Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

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post #4

This is really cool. Rampant cheating is the reason I completely abandoned playing chess, so nice to see something happening.

How do you cheat at chess? Serious question… there are fixed rules that govern the game, certainly a piece of software or in the human case 3rd party observer should be able to enforce them? In other words, given a list of moves, you can write a program that returns `valid` if the set of moves is allowed or `invalid` if it is not, no?

Open up high level bot in another tab. Play their moves and copy what the bot does in response.

I have no idea why people do it, it's not even like video game cheats where it gives people a advantage but you're still in control - you're literally just copying.

Re: Irwin – the protector of Lichess from all chess players villainous

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post #4

This is really cool. Rampant cheating is the reason I completely abandoned playing chess, so nice to see something happening.

How do you cheat at chess? Serious question… there are fixed rules that govern the game, certainly a piece of software or in the human case 3rd party observer should be able to enforce them? In other words, given a list of moves, you can write a program that returns `valid` if the set of moves is allowed or `invalid` if it is not, no?

Oh, wait, this must be cheating in the sense of “I used a computer to assist my brain in determining my move”. I guess that is a new type of problem in online chess…
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