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Thunder Bay police set up 911 email as Canada-wide cellular outage continues

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Re: Thunder Bay police set up 911 email as Canada-wide cellular outage continues

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I'm curious if anyone knows the connection between Rogers and debit machines? It's been an entertaining day for me :)

The Interac network uses Rogers for its backbone apparently.

Is there a technical reason that a debit system backend wouldn't be set up with some redundancies (ie not singlehomed to rogers) or is it just laziness/costcutting?

Re: Thunder Bay police set up 911 email as Canada-wide cellular outage continues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Interac network uses Rogers for its backbone apparently.

Is there a technical reason that a debit system backend wouldn't be set up with some redundancies (ie not singlehomed to rogers) or is it just laziness/costcutting?

speculation, but hopefully grounded in truth. There are few networks in Canada, and many of the providers on these networks resell service on the network that's owned and operated by only a few (3? more? less?) companies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a technical reason that a debit system backend wouldn't be set up with some redundancies (ie not singlehomed to rogers) or is it just laziness/costcutting?

speculation, but hopefully grounded in truth. There are few networks in Canada, and many of the providers on these networks resell service on the network that's owned and operated by only a few (3? more? less?) companies

Yeah but Rogers isn't the biggest of the big networks, that's Telus and Bell.

Re: Thunder Bay police set up 911 email as Canada-wide cellular outage continues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Interac network uses Rogers for its backbone apparently.

Is there a technical reason that a debit system backend wouldn't be set up with some redundancies (ie not singlehomed to rogers) or is it just laziness/costcutting?

The system has redundancies… checkout Roger’s fiber map. This is a network problem, not a “connection” issue.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a technical reason that a debit system backend wouldn't be set up with some redundancies (ie not singlehomed to rogers) or is it just laziness/costcutting?

The system has redundancies… checkout Roger’s fiber map. This is a network problem, not a “connection” issue.

I meant redundancies as in 'if this network goes out, we have a backup network (on a different provider) we can switch to and continue processing transactions'. That said, I don't have the expertise to know how feasible something like that would be in this scenario

Re: Thunder Bay police set up 911 email as Canada-wide cellular outage continues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Interac network uses Rogers for its backbone apparently.

Is there a technical reason that a debit system backend wouldn't be set up with some redundancies (ie not singlehomed to rogers) or is it just laziness/costcutting?

Word on the street is that they have a redundant network in place, but it is also supplied by Rogers. So more likely some technical incompetence combined with snake oil salesmanery.

Re: Thunder Bay police set up 911 email as Canada-wide cellular outage continues

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"Oookay, who fat-fingered the EBGP peering table this time?"

Welp, everyone needs a DR/BCP plan for national and regional disasters of natural and human kinds that also involve cellular, network, fuel, and power outages at different areas.

For example, perhaps the they need multiple cell carriers with independent backbones run by different companies.