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Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Atlassian did well in replacing the barren world that consisted of Bugzilla/Trac/etc (yuck) and worse closed-sourced offenders like the "Rational suite" (the worse pile of crap I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with)

But yeah, somebody should create a Jira ticket for their lack of profitability

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Atlassian did well in replacing the barren world that consisted of Bugzilla/Trac/etc (yuck) and worse closed-sourced offenders like the "Rational suite" (the worse pile of crap I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with) But yeah, somebody should create a Jira ticket for their lack of profitability

"As an Atlassian founder, I would like to make money, so that I can sell and never look at a Jira ticket again"

tag, estimate, assign, add to epic, put on next sprint

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Atlassian did well in replacing the barren world that consisted of Bugzilla/Trac/etc (yuck) and worse closed-sourced offenders like the "Rational suite" (the worse pile of crap I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with) But yeah, somebody should create a Jira ticket for their lack of profitability

Well its not a cheap product, I suspect its just a massive knot of complexity and thus massively expensive to maintain and manage.

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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Atlassian did well in replacing the barren world that consisted of Bugzilla/Trac/etc (yuck) and worse closed-sourced offenders like the "Rational suite" (the worse pile of crap I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with) But yeah, somebody should create a Jira ticket for their lack of profitability

Well its not a cheap product, I suspect its just a massive knot of complexity and thus massively expensive to maintain and manage.

Massive pile of garbage is more like it. As a developer, the only thing slowing me down from getting work done was waiting on JIRA and being told to use the crap they call Confluence to document things.

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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> While it is still used by many tech businesses (including the author’s), it has no real network effect — that is, users can switch to a competitor product like Asana, Basecamp or Monday.com with minimal cost (other than the initial hassle of switching to a new system).

Lol. At some companies, Jira workflows literally run the whole company. At my prev job, prod deployments were tightly linked to Jira.

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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I didn't realize that they were unprofitable; not good. I don't think they should be valued as a pre-profit/pre-revenue growth stock - as the article says - the product doesn't really have network effects or strong lock-in.

JIRA has huge feature creep lockin along the likes of sales force. It costs huge amounts of money on consultants to move off of it.

Any new company probably wouldn’t use it though, it’s just overkill.

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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post #6

> While it is still used by many tech businesses (including the author’s), it has no real network effect — that is, users can switch to a competitor product like Asana, Basecamp or Monday.com with minimal cost (other than the initial hassle of switching to a new system). Lol. At some companies, Jira workflows literally run the whole company. At my prev job, prod deployments were tightly linked to Jira.

> (other than the initial hassle of switching to a new system).

that's doing a lot of work in that sentence!

Re: Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable

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post #6

> While it is still used by many tech businesses (including the author’s), it has no real network effect — that is, users can switch to a competitor product like Asana, Basecamp or Monday.com with minimal cost (other than the initial hassle of switching to a new system). Lol. At some companies, Jira workflows literally run the whole company. At my prev job, prod deployments were tightly linked to Jira.

> other than the initial hassle of switching to a new system

Is like saying: "people can move overseas with minimal cost (other than shitloads of migration bureaucracy, frequent flying to meet family, put their entire furniture on top of a cargo ship)

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