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Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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> However, the Gatekeeper check here is overridable by users.

This is presented as a flaw, but I'm not sure they are thinking through the alternatives. It's hard to give too much credence to security experts who are't thinking holistically. Perhaps there is a flaw, but I'm curious to know what it is.

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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Am I the only one increasingly frustrated with macOS's naming scheme? I have no idea what the latest version is. Ubuntu versioning gets this right; you can parse their codenames alphabetically to derive the semantic version. But Apple's heuristic here seems to be "throw a dart at a map of California".

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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post #2

> However, the Gatekeeper check here is overridable by users. This is presented as a flaw, but I'm not sure they are thinking through the alternatives. It's hard to give too much credence to security experts who are't thinking holistically. Perhaps there is a flaw, but I'm curious to know what it is.

Things the user can override are things social engineers can convince users to override.

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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post #3

Am I the only one increasingly frustrated with macOS's naming scheme? I have no idea what the latest version is. Ubuntu versioning gets this right; you can parse their codenames alphabetically to derive the semantic version. But Apple's heuristic here seems to be "throw a dart at a map of California".

I just miss the Big Cat names.

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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post #3

Am I the only one increasingly frustrated with macOS's naming scheme? I have no idea what the latest version is. Ubuntu versioning gets this right; you can parse their codenames alphabetically to derive the semantic version. But Apple's heuristic here seems to be "throw a dart at a map of California".

Hasn't it been this way the whole time? Why is your frustration increasing?

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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post #3

Am I the only one increasingly frustrated with macOS's naming scheme? I have no idea what the latest version is. Ubuntu versioning gets this right; you can parse their codenames alphabetically to derive the semantic version. But Apple's heuristic here seems to be "throw a dart at a map of California".

Ubuntu has both a codename and a version number. macOS has a version number too (Ventura is 13) but Apple frustratingly don’t use it prominently.

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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post #2

> However, the Gatekeeper check here is overridable by users. This is presented as a flaw, but I'm not sure they are thinking through the alternatives. It's hard to give too much credence to security experts who are't thinking holistically. Perhaps there is a flaw, but I'm curious to know what it is.

They explain their reasoning right after that statement. Their concern is social engineering is still a way to convince people to override this.

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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post #3

Am I the only one increasingly frustrated with macOS's naming scheme? I have no idea what the latest version is. Ubuntu versioning gets this right; you can parse their codenames alphabetically to derive the semantic version. But Apple's heuristic here seems to be "throw a dart at a map of California".

It wasn't much better with big cats. There were two sort of semantically related releases, Leopard/Snow Leopard and Lion/Mountain Lion. Of those on the Leopard/Snow Leopard I thought made sense as Snow Leopard was a "oh shit fix all the bugs" release. SL was the first full OS release after the Intel transition and 64-bit kernel.

Re: Apple’s macOS Ventura – New Security Changes

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post #3

Am I the only one increasingly frustrated with macOS's naming scheme? I have no idea what the latest version is. Ubuntu versioning gets this right; you can parse their codenames alphabetically to derive the semantic version. But Apple's heuristic here seems to be "throw a dart at a map of California".

The marketing names for macOS and OSX have always been random other than having a general theme to it.

The OS in most cases just refers to itself by the number and is what it will show in a lot of scenarios in addition to the marketing name.

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