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Big water cutbacks ordered amid Colorado River shortage

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Re: Big water cutbacks ordered amid Colorado River shortage

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Could we feasibly just run desalination stations from the coasts and pipe the water - like oil - to fill up these reservoirs? Setting cost aside for a second, is there any reason not to do something like this?

Setting cost aside? No. It costs a lot because it requires lots of energy which probably means lots of fossil fuels burning.

Re: Big water cutbacks ordered amid Colorado River shortage

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Went kayaking in Lake Powell last year. Locals were saying the lake was down 30 feet (!!) from the past couple of years. I have no idea if that sort of fluctuation is common but that was enough to make me feel very concerned about the water situation in the southwest

It's a larger drop than usual.

https://mead.uslakes.info/Level/

Re: Big water cutbacks ordered amid Colorado River shortage

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At least this article notes that the vast majority of water usage is agriculture. This isn't something cities could or should solve by switching to (expensive) desalination to effectively subsidize agriculture. Most notably, alfalfa is mentioned here as farmers are going to have to switch to less water-intensive crops.

Decreasing alfalfa production may well impact the ability to feed cattle. In the short term, that's actually fine. It may just force more beef production, which will be good for costs (again, in the short term).

But this article makes the same mistake so many make: blaming this on climate change. It's not. It's simply usage. See Figure 2 on page 10 [1]. Additionally, water projections were made at a high point of water inflows that simply haven't been realistic since.

In short, we're using too much water and farming is going to have to take the hit.

[1]: https://www.usbr.gov/watersmart/bsp/docs/finalreport/Colorad...

Re: Big water cutbacks ordered amid Colorado River shortage

#7

Could we feasibly just run desalination stations from the coasts and pipe the water - like oil - to fill up these reservoirs? Setting cost aside for a second, is there any reason not to do something like this?

Yes. Extremely high energy usage.

Re: Big water cutbacks ordered amid Colorado River shortage

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Could we feasibly just run desalination stations from the coasts and pipe the water - like oil - to fill up these reservoirs? Setting cost aside for a second, is there any reason not to do something like this?

Setting cost aside? No. It costs a lot because it requires lots of energy which probably means lots of fossil fuels burning.

There’s other ways to mitigate that cost. Israel for instance runs many desalination plants from if I recall correctly solar power. We could do the same with solar and wind.

Never the less, yes, because I believe cost can be managed and figured out over time, where as I don’t know what other mitigating factors would be the consequence of such a choice

Re: Big water cutbacks ordered amid Colorado River shortage

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Could we feasibly just run desalination stations from the coasts and pipe the water - like oil - to fill up these reservoirs? Setting cost aside for a second, is there any reason not to do something like this?

Generally it would be cheaper to use more efficient farming methods.

Re: Big water cutbacks ordered amid Colorado River shortage

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The answer to this problem lies here: “Entsminger pointed out that roughly 80% of the river’s flow is used for agriculture, and most of that for thirsty crops like alfalfa, which is mainly grown for cattle, both in the U.S. and overseas.”

The simple solution would be to raise prices on water such that it disincentivizes growing water hungry crops than alfalfa for example. The west’s water crisis is less about cities than agricultural choices made during the last century, which was wetter than it will be going forward. The obvious answer is to either regulate or incentivize using less water hungry crops more strongly. It would be better if this had started slowly a while ago, allowing the market to adjust and reallocate. Alas, looks like it will have to be an abrupt shift in the near future.

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