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Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case is more nuanced than the headline may sound:

> Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #2

For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case is more nuanced than the headline may sound: > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.

It's not about the residents of King Cove. BTW they've either been without that road for 40 years, or moved there knowing the situation.

It's about power and control if you go by this part:

“The split panel decision would allow the secretary, without any public process or without compliance with any other laws, to engage in a backroom land exchange,”

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #2

For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case is more nuanced than the headline may sound: > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.

A well connected, wealthy person with no real worries about their own access to medical professionals and no real roots in Alaska feigning to act for the good of nature but in the process acting against the interest of these communities? Say it aint so.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #2

For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case is more nuanced than the headline may sound: > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.

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Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #3
post #2

For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case is more nuanced than the headline may sound: > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.

It's not about the residents of King Cove. BTW they've either been without that road for 40 years, or moved there knowing the situation. It's about power and control if you go by this part: “The split panel decision would allow the secretary, without any public process or without compliance with any other laws, to engage in a backroom land exchange,”

That's a pretty fucked up clause

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #2

For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case is more nuanced than the headline may sound: > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.

We upvote what we like, downvote what we don't like. Such dog damn simple creatures we are.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #3
post #2

For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case is more nuanced than the headline may sound: > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.

It's not about the residents of King Cove. BTW they've either been without that road for 40 years, or moved there knowing the situation. It's about power and control if you go by this part: “The split panel decision would allow the secretary, without any public process or without compliance with any other laws, to engage in a backroom land exchange,”

45% of households in King Cove have children who had no choice in whether the road is there or not 40 years ago. It's hard to just blame them that "they knew the roads weren't there" when they were born thus they're not allowed roads to medical care the way I (and probably you) are.

Re: Jimmy Carter asks court to defend Alaska’s ‘unrivaled wilderness’

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post #2

For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case is more nuanced than the headline may sound: > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.

I personally don't consider that nuanced.

I live five miles from pavement, an hour from a hospital, so I understand these concerns.

I would be absolutely disgusted if they paved through my local national forest for some quicker access to... Anything. Literally anything.

Those people all have the choice to leave. Living in remote places comes with many, many tradeoffs and inconveniences. There's no safety in the wilderness.

Keep the wild places wild. There's so little left.

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