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Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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Re: Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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I wonder how many people turn on traditional cruise control and then crash due to neglectful driving. That's what we should be comparing Tesla Autopilot against, we should compare it against the status quo.

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Re: Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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I wonder how many people turn on traditional cruise control and then crash due to neglectful driving. That's what we should be comparing Tesla Autopilot against, we should compare it against the status quo.

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Yikes, he's a White South African! Thanks, I unfollowed him on Twitter. Genuinely thought he was a Blue Martian.

Re: Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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I wonder how many people turn on traditional cruise control and then crash due to neglectful driving. That's what we should be comparing Tesla Autopilot against, we should compare it against the status quo.

If this was happening as often on Volvos or GM vehicles don’t you think they would be looking into it too?

Re: Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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Yikes, he's a White South African! Thanks, I unfollowed him on Twitter. Genuinely thought he was a Blue Martian.

A white South African whose family came from apartheid South Africa...the problem is not his skin colour.

Re: Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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Yikes, he's a White South African! Thanks, I unfollowed him on Twitter. Genuinely thought he was a Blue Martian.

A white South African whose family came from apartheid South Africa...the problem is not his skin colour.

I don't do collective punishment. The NYT piece on him showed that he wasn't a racist.

Re: Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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I wonder how many people turn on traditional cruise control and then crash due to neglectful driving. That's what we should be comparing Tesla Autopilot against, we should compare it against the status quo.

If this was happening as often on Volvos or GM vehicles don’t you think they would be looking into it too?

Other automaker AEB (automatic emergency braking) systems have the same stationary object detection deficiency and specifically indicate that the system can fail under these circumstances [1].

Tesla gets called out because their autosteer is so good at lane keeping, comparatively speaking. Their new high resolution radar [2] (Phoenix) they’ve registered with the FCC, as well as a retrofit campaign across the fleet, will likely resolve this gap. If so, I’m unsure what happens when other automakers continue to have this deficiency as their autosteer capability improves but they don’t have high res forward facing radar. Will NHTSA hold legacies to the same standard?

[1] https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a24511826/safety-featu...

[2] https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-backpedals-on-the-u...

Re: Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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A white South African whose family came from apartheid South Africa...the problem is not his skin colour.

I don't do collective punishment. The NYT piece on him showed that he wasn't a racist.

Nobody mentioned racism? Also, Musk benefited from his father's wealth.

Re: Tesla investigation deepens after more than a dozen US ‘Autopilot’ crashes

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I wonder how many people turn on traditional cruise control and then crash due to neglectful driving. That's what we should be comparing Tesla Autopilot against, we should compare it against the status quo.

If this was happening as often on Volvos or GM vehicles don’t you think they would be looking into it too?

I don't. You rarely see crashes of other vehicles make the press, but with Teslas you do.

Tesla articles get views because of both the Tesla haters and fanboys, makes financial sense for news sites to publish them. That increased press leads to increased investigations.

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