'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
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'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
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Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#2...and the wind could generate electricity for a similar number.
Conversation might be a bit limited though. The need to tell everyone you meet, within 5 minutes of meeting them, that you're a vegan would be removed.
Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#3...and the wind could generate electricity for a similar number. Conversation might be a bit limited though. The need to tell everyone you meet, within 5 minutes of meeting them, that you're a vegan would be removed.
Similar to how you resort to cheap stereotypes within five minutes of being exposed to an uncomfortable topic.
Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#4...and the wind could generate electricity for a similar number. Conversation might be a bit limited though. The need to tell everyone you meet, within 5 minutes of meeting them, that you're a vegan would be removed.
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Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#5...and the wind could generate electricity for a similar number. Conversation might be a bit limited though. The need to tell everyone you meet, within 5 minutes of meeting them, that you're a vegan would be removed.
At this point I'm fairly convinced anti-vegans chiming in after 5 minutes of conversation claiming vegans can't keep it to themselves for 5 minutes is more common than vegans actually being unable to not mention it.
Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#6According to the linked paper, the UK would require 3 million hectares to provide sufficient calories (assuming everyone ate nothing but barley stew). It also points out that, at least in 1975, that's more or less what happened - the UK grew enough barely in that year, using 3.6m hectares, to "feed" its population (at least, in terms of calories needed).
So - it's already true! We grow all the barley we need to sustain ourselves, and the rest is given over to other produce that provides the other nutrients we need, as well as some luxury. Yay vegan sustainability!
Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#7Throwaway for obvious reasons.
What's the current academic consensus on nutritional deficiencies of vegan / lacto-vegeterian diet?
I grew up on a lacto-vegeterian diet in India. I can't shake off the feeling that I would've had a better physique and growth if I had access to non-vegetarian food during my youth.
Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#8Throwaway for obvious reasons. What's the current academic consensus on nutritional deficiencies of vegan / lacto-vegeterian diet? I grew up on a lacto-vegeterian diet in India. I can't shake off the feeling that I would've had a better physique and growth if I had access to non-vegetarian food during my youth.
> It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.
Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#9If sustainability is more important, eating at least fish too is bound to be better. There's no way leaving 71% of the surface of the planet off-limits for nutrients isn't going to increase pressure on the other 29%.
And yes, much fishing and aquaculture is presently unsustainable, but that can be said about agriculture too. It's not nearly an adequate argument for abandoning it entirely.
The argument for full veganism has to be that animals are people. Sustainability arguments won't cut it. If animals aren't people, you never get to full veganism, and if animals are people the sustainability argument is redundant anyway.
Re: 'On a vegan planet, Britain could feed 200M people’
#10If I spent 1/8 of what I earn, eight of me could live on my salary.
It's functionally achievable, people live in my country on that amount.
But I don't like that, so I spend a bit more.
There is no sense in reducing the entire human experience to the lowest common denominator one in order to fit more people on the planet. If that's in your plans, you have a literal fight on your hands.