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Re: Fediverse
#2The page for Mastodon reminded me of the alternate web interfaces, Pinafore and Halcyon: https://fediverse.party/en/mastodon/
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#3Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers? Basically the network should be in the data and the servers should be replaceable. I think those are very obvious bottlenecks that affect most of these alternative networks.
On the other side, censorship is also very important, nobody wants to have to dwell into spam and filth to read a small amount of valuable content. Maybe be able to choose your own censors somehow? Or build chains of trusts with your friends and "friends-of-friends" that can be revoked at any point?
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#4Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers? Basically the network should be in the data and the servers should be replaceable. I think those are very obvious bottlenecks that affect most of these alternative networks. On the other side, censorship is also very important, nobody wants to have to dwell into spam an…
> Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers?
If you know of a homomorphic encryption scheme that would work for this and remain economically viable for other people to host, let me know. I simply don't think it's reasonable to expect that degree of privacy, much less on a Twitter clone. If you want privacy, use Matrix or OMEMO.
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#5Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27009468.
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#6Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers? Basically the network should be in the data and the servers should be replaceable. I think those are very obvious bottlenecks that affect most of these alternative networks. On the other side, censorship is also very important, nobody wants to have to dwell into spam an…
I was thinking about "physical reality" as a means to establish a chain of trust. If you and I sit next to each other, we have vocal and image chat available. Other than someone coming and physically injecting themselves into our "sphere", our communications can be trustworthy and reliable.
If a "chunk" of data could be "sovereignized" by association with other "nearby" chunks of data (through some common signing event), one could "move" seamlessly from one chunk to the other, regardless of where it was being "served" from.
When I talk about "chunks" here, I'm talking about document boundaries and ownership/control of the data.
If we were in some sort of simulation, moving from my sphere of data to yours would look something like a probability distribution. By having signed contracts between the spheres, one could increase the probability that movement in a general direction resulted in access and loading of trusted data.
Because the chains start out empty, nobody "owns" these fictitious plots until they are established through preexisting trusted channels. Various channels as well. None of this bullshit NFT land grab crap that nobody can trust. Use NFTs, or even better, Lightning payments to establish the "authenticity" of the nearby data spheres.
Re: Fediverse
#7Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers? Basically the network should be in the data and the servers should be replaceable. I think those are very obvious bottlenecks that affect most of these alternative networks. On the other side, censorship is also very important, nobody wants to have to dwell into spam an…
I was thinking about "physical reality" as a means to establish a chain of trust. If you and I sit next to each other, we have vocal and image chat available. Other than someone coming and physically injecting themselves into our "sphere", our communications can be trustworthy and reliable. If a "chunk" of data could be "sovereignized" by association with other "nearby" chunks of data (through some common signing eve…
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Re: Fediverse
#8Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers? Basically the network should be in the data and the servers should be replaceable. I think those are very obvious bottlenecks that affect most of these alternative networks. On the other side, censorship is also very important, nobody wants to have to dwell into spam an…
I believe this is possible with ActivityPub already, and the servers just need to start making a distinction between the identities from its users and the "federation": https://mastodon.communick.com/@raphael/106825107786781891
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#9Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers? Basically the network should be in the data and the servers should be replaceable. I think those are very obvious bottlenecks that affect most of these alternative networks. On the other side, censorship is also very important, nobody wants to have to dwell into spam an…
> Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers? If you know of a homomorphic encryption scheme that would work for this and remain economically viable for other people to host, let me know. I simply don't think it's reasonable to expect that degree of privacy, much less on a Twitter clone. If you want privacy, use…
I mean "own" not in the sense of privacy in this case. But in the sense that the account (public key) belongs to the person who has a certain private key. So you can move your content to a different server or domain and keep all your audience, maybe with a small transition period while the new server becomes well known, but not like now getting kicked out of twitter or youtube just results on a bunch or broken links and contextless comments.
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#10A Twitter replacement shouldn't be federated. It should be fully P2P.
Federated platforms can still be censored and walled off. Not all Mastodon instances are peers, and your data isn't portable. It still has most of the same pitfalls as the platforms we complain about today.
P2P is naturally efficient. The best ideas will gain traction within their memetic networks, and you can branch out and explore anything and respond to it.
Sign and publish with a pubkey so you have pseudonymous identity and can keep track of peers. Publish and consume through a gateway proxy or VPN if you want to keep your IP private.
Supernodes can help with scaling, especially for mobile clients.
You can block whomever you dislike or share only with your direct network. You can write your own prioritization algorithm to cut down on noise and create high signal channels. You can archive whatever you like easily.
It should have been P2P all along.