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The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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Re: The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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i say it again and again whenever i see these threads:

psilocybin mushroom kicks down depression so hard it can't get up and bother you again.

no SSRIs, no marijuana after taking it.

anxiety and ptsd are still there tho so i think that requires something else. also something about THC that seems to reverse the benefits I got from psilocybin. cessation of THC seems to put me "back" on track if that makes sense.

disclaimer: ymmv, please get a sitter, if not, do it outside (best to do it on the grass) where you are safe, comfortable, and calm.

Re: The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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i say it again and again whenever i see these threads: psilocybin mushroom kicks down depression so hard it can't get up and bother you again. no SSRIs, no marijuana after taking it. anxiety and ptsd are still there tho so i think that requires something else. also something about THC that seems to reverse the benefits I got from psilocybin. cessation of THC seems to put me "back" on track if that makes sense. discla…

what is your dosage and frequency?

Re: The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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i say it again and again whenever i see these threads: psilocybin mushroom kicks down depression so hard it can't get up and bother you again. no SSRIs, no marijuana after taking it. anxiety and ptsd are still there tho so i think that requires something else. also something about THC that seems to reverse the benefits I got from psilocybin. cessation of THC seems to put me "back" on track if that makes sense. discla…

I think THC affects some people by kicking their anxiety into high gear (I know that's the case for me). One day, we'll probably figure out the genetics underlying that effect.

Re: The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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post #5

i say it again and again whenever i see these threads: psilocybin mushroom kicks down depression so hard it can't get up and bother you again. no SSRIs, no marijuana after taking it. anxiety and ptsd are still there tho so i think that requires something else. also something about THC that seems to reverse the benefits I got from psilocybin. cessation of THC seems to put me "back" on track if that makes sense. discla…

what is your dosage and frequency?

I've heard this is only effective at "heroic" doses -- most studies also use a high dose (>= 25 mg psilocybin)

Re: The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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i say it again and again whenever i see these threads: psilocybin mushroom kicks down depression so hard it can't get up and bother you again. no SSRIs, no marijuana after taking it. anxiety and ptsd are still there tho so i think that requires something else. also something about THC that seems to reverse the benefits I got from psilocybin. cessation of THC seems to put me "back" on track if that makes sense. discla…

> disclaimer: ymmv, please get a sitter, if not, do it outside (best to do it on the grass) where you are safe, comfortable, and calm.

I just want to echo how important this disclaimer is. There's no free lunch, and psilocybin can be incredibly challenging. For some people it is massively helpful for depression, but this is not a guarantee. Do your research and have a guide (if at all possible).

Re: The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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what is your dosage and frequency?

I've heard this is only effective at "heroic" doses -- most studies also use a high dose (>= 25 mg psilocybin)

going to be honest i really don't buy this microdose, your body will quickly build natural tolerance to psilocybin. this is not like THC or alcohol where you drink tiny amounts, the effects will be felt.

it makes sense why the body builds tolerance to psilocybin so rapidly and half life is quite long (at least a month or two) for evolutionary purposes. which to me is interesting because it shows that we've evolved to build tolerance against it but THC takes far longer and in very high doses to build tolerance.

all in all, I've read accounts of people seeing positive changes with microdosing but for my case, while I did not take heroic doses (McKenna's 5 grams), I took at best 2 to 3 grams. In higher doses I had a transcendental experience....

while nobody has died from taking psilocybin outright, there had been reported incidents where it had impact on somebody prone to schizophrenia and psychosis. However its extremely rare. This is why I suggest to people to have a sitter and be at a ground level.

It's not an issue for the millions of people that take it but if you've never even smoked marijuana before and this is your first try, please get a sitter.

Re: The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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i say it again and again whenever i see these threads: psilocybin mushroom kicks down depression so hard it can't get up and bother you again. no SSRIs, no marijuana after taking it. anxiety and ptsd are still there tho so i think that requires something else. also something about THC that seems to reverse the benefits I got from psilocybin. cessation of THC seems to put me "back" on track if that makes sense. discla…

> disclaimer: ymmv, please get a sitter, if not, do it outside (best to do it on the grass) where you are safe, comfortable, and calm. I just want to echo how important this disclaimer is. There's no free lunch, and psilocybin can be incredibly challenging. For some people it is massively helpful for depression, but this is not a guarantee. Do your research and have a guide (if at all possible).

Something else that's critically important is to make sure you know what you're getting is actually psilocybin and not something else, and that the dosage actually is what you expect.

If you're part of a research study at a respected institution, that's easy. Not so easy if you're getting it on the black/gray market or picking mushrooms yourself.

So if you have to get it from the black/gray market, educate yourself thoroughly on how to tell if it's real and what the dosage you're getting is.

Alan Rockefeller has some great videos on psilocybin mushroom identification: [1] [2]

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInqVRRva7M

[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcL-7u80kjs

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