The iPhone 4S, HSPA+, and When HSPA+ is Real 4G
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The iPhone 4S, HSPA+, and When HSPA+ is Real 4G
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#4The real issue is that there wasn't a good way to label networks that were 2-4x better than their predecessor. EV-DO Rev A achieves around 1Mbps in the real world. As companies (Sprint, really) started rolling out faster wireless technologies, they wanted a way to differentiate them. They were better. If you were a Sprint user with a WiMAX device, you're likely getting 2-3x faster speeds. That's a significant improvement and, frankly, Sprint needed a way to communicate that to users. Of course, that set the bar decently low for 4G - a height that HSPA+ easily surpassed.
It would have been good if it had been called 3.5G or 3.75G, but once Sprint had announced it's 2-3Mbps service as "4G", it meant everyone offering 2-3Mbps service had to call it that. Granted, I think Sprint thought its service was going to provide faster speeds than that - as noted by their 3-6Mbps figure. However, that never panned out in real-world testing. It's reasonable to think that LTE's speeds are going to be reduced as the customer load increases (right now, AT&T and Verizon's LTE networks are virtually empty). So, if WiMAX had been able to deliver 3-6Mbps and LTE speeds went down to the 6Mbps range under load, it might not have seemed so off.
What we really need is to get away from the "G"s and start concentrating on average real-world speed under load. What are people going to call "4G" technologies like LTE Advanced (the next generation of LTE)? It's going to offer vast improvements over the LTE that AT&T and Verizon are rolling out, but officially it's supposed to just be 4G. The number of "G"s doesn't matter. Ping times and bandwidth matter.
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#6Nice graph: Motorola Atrix 4G, LG Thrill 4G, HTC Inspire 4G, iPhone 4S, all with theoretical 14.4 Mbps down, 5.8 Mbps up. Only one of these products doesn't have 4G in the name.
For me the surprise was iPhone 3G back then with Apple skipping the iPhone 2. Apple probably was thinking about iPhone 4G but it wasn't perfect yet or they just wanted to stop marketing hardware features like that.
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#7Nice graph: Motorola Atrix 4G, LG Thrill 4G, HTC Inspire 4G, iPhone 4S, all with theoretical 14.4 Mbps down, 5.8 Mbps up. Only one of these products doesn't have 4G in the name.
https://plus.google.com/109995794392976695103/posts/PdBbSct8...
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#8Nice graph: Motorola Atrix 4G, LG Thrill 4G, HTC Inspire 4G, iPhone 4S, all with theoretical 14.4 Mbps down, 5.8 Mbps up. Only one of these products doesn't have 4G in the name.
Doesn't stop them from making sure you know that the 4S is just as fast all these "4G" phones (stopping short of comparing to real 4G phones, of course). https://plus.google.com/109995794392976695103/posts/PdBbSct8...
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#9Nice graph: Motorola Atrix 4G, LG Thrill 4G, HTC Inspire 4G, iPhone 4S, all with theoretical 14.4 Mbps down, 5.8 Mbps up. Only one of these products doesn't have 4G in the name.
Probably a typo... :P For me the surprise was iPhone 3G back then with Apple skipping the iPhone 2. Apple probably was thinking about iPhone 4G but it wasn't perfect yet or they just wanted to stop marketing hardware features like that.
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#10Even if you somehow reached those 14M consistently, latency would still make sure that surfing felt much slower than over landlines. And the very low data transfer limits will make sure that stuff not as dependent on latency (like video with big buffers) still won't be practical.
For me, the mobile web got kinda usable with 3G phones and since then, I've never seen any practical improvement.
So at least here in Switzerland, this discussion is pointless and it's different features that will make people want (or not - we'll see) to upgrade their phones