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What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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OT for this particular release, but I'd like to point out that one of the best features of emacs and its ecosystem is that plugins, libraries and software are almost always self-documenting.

You want to read the documentation or delve into the implementation of a feature of your programs it is literally right there in your editor instead of having to jump to some, potentially outdated, website documentation or having to figure out where to look at things from a sterile github page.

I wish that the idea of self documenation was more widespread in other ecosystems.

E.g. the ecosystem I know most, JavaScript, would have this potential, but very often dependencies are compiled and there is no such self-documenting culture so best case scenario you get types you can _almost_ trust and some jsdoc that you can _almost_ trust.

I guess the fact that the lisp and elisp community in particular has always cultivated this practice is the deciding factor rather than the languages itself.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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It amazes me that developers pick closed source Jetbrains and Microsoft spyware for the program they rely on to make a living when Emacs and Vim/Neovim get better by leaps and bounds every year. Emacs has packages that VSCode can only dream of having and with Emacs distributions or really just lsp-mode you can have a full fledged IDE with 0 fiddling. I recently did some digging into the editor usage of noteworthy programmers by going through interviews (usesthis.com was a great resource) and found that 99% of programmers whose names are recognizable are still using Vim/Emacs. Clearly these tools are not holding anyone back from doing great things.

Edit: Just yesterday HN was overtly critical of Warp for being a proprietary, closed source, telemetry laden terminal, but they’ll suddenly lose their morals when it comes to text editing over perceived conveniences of an IDE vs. a “text editor” with LSP.

The point of Vim/Emacs isn’t just that they are good editors. It is also you voting with your installs and money for free and open source tools. You already reap the benefits of the Linux ecosystem, the least you can do is help out by picking a FOSS editor.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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It amazes me that developers pick closed source Jetbrains and Microsoft spyware for the program they rely on to make a living when Emacs and Vim/Neovim get better by leaps and bounds every year. Emacs has packages that VSCode can only dream of having and with Emacs distributions or really just lsp-mode you can have a full fledged IDE with 0 fiddling. I recently did some digging into the editor usage of noteworthy pro…

Good luck writing an iOS app in emacs.

(Well, good luck writing one in Xcode, for that matter.)

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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It amazes me that developers pick closed source Jetbrains and Microsoft spyware for the program they rely on to make a living when Emacs and Vim/Neovim get better by leaps and bounds every year. Emacs has packages that VSCode can only dream of having and with Emacs distributions or really just lsp-mode you can have a full fledged IDE with 0 fiddling. I recently did some digging into the editor usage of noteworthy pro…

With 0 fiddling? not my experience at all. has something changed?

I use Emacs for lots of things, but I've long since changed to Pycharm for Python programming. That's been close to 0 fiddling for real. Its been pretty good for JS programming too.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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It amazes me that developers pick closed source Jetbrains and Microsoft spyware for the program they rely on to make a living when Emacs and Vim/Neovim get better by leaps and bounds every year. Emacs has packages that VSCode can only dream of having and with Emacs distributions or really just lsp-mode you can have a full fledged IDE with 0 fiddling. I recently did some digging into the editor usage of noteworthy pro…

Does Emacs ship with LSP support out of the box? They've had a habit in the past of ignoring similar features that were arbitrarily perceived as "proprietary" or not open enough.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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It amazes me that developers pick closed source Jetbrains and Microsoft spyware for the program they rely on to make a living when Emacs and Vim/Neovim get better by leaps and bounds every year. Emacs has packages that VSCode can only dream of having and with Emacs distributions or really just lsp-mode you can have a full fledged IDE with 0 fiddling. I recently did some digging into the editor usage of noteworthy pro…

This kind of comment gives us emacs-users bad reputation. Emacs isn't perfect, dissing people that don't use it is not helping anyone.
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