Completely Locked-In Patients Can Communicate, Thanks to a Brain Implant (BCI)
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Completely Locked-In Patients Can Communicate, Thanks to a Brain Implant (BCI)
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Re: Completely Locked-In Patients Can Communicate, Thanks to a Brain Implant (BCI)
#2The study comes in the context of past findings of serious misconduct against Birbaumer and Chaudhary. The findings concerned the data and analysis in two previous papers published in PLoS Biology. The two articles, subsequently retracted, also concerned the use of brain activity to decode the thoughts of completely locked-in patients. The German research agency, Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (DFG) found that the scientists failed to show complete analysis of their data and patient examinations in these previous studies and made false statements. The allegations do not relate to the findings of the current research which involved different methodology, supervision and analysis. In a statement to Technology Networks, Birbaumer said that the new study “shows that all accusations are wrong” and suggested that additional forthcoming legal developments would further exonerate his and Chaudhary’s prior research.
man that's a scary last paragraph. Locked-in research is very, very sensitive to this sort of thing, for obvious reasons.
Re: Completely Locked-In Patients Can Communicate, Thanks to a Brain Implant (BCI)
#3The study comes in the context of past findings of serious misconduct against Birbaumer and Chaudhary. The findings concerned the data and analysis in two previous papers published in PLoS Biology. The two articles, subsequently retracted, also concerned the use of brain activity to decode the thoughts of completely locked-in patients. The German research agency, Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (DFG) found that the s…
Reading about the guy that became unlocked (it wasnt ALS) it always haunts me that it took him a couple days to even know he was locked in
At first he thought the nurse was just being unsocial when they came to do routine stuff with him! and then he realized he was in spectator mode
Its going to be really hard for a lot of people when they find out whats going on with their locked in or previously locked in loved ones
Re: Completely Locked-In Patients Can Communicate, Thanks to a Brain Implant (BCI)
#4Fascinating.
I wonder if nerds like us could optimize the „bitrate“ of this.
Lvng out mddl vcls is one vry smpl optn, fr exmpl.
There must be even better ways, if you consider the frequency of words, for example.
I wouldnt be surprised if one could reduce bits needed to express a sentence by 90%, if those numerologists that proved their worth with predicting Wordle solutions had a look at that.
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#5The study comes in the context of past findings of serious misconduct against Birbaumer and Chaudhary. The findings concerned the data and analysis in two previous papers published in PLoS Biology. The two articles, subsequently retracted, also concerned the use of brain activity to decode the thoughts of completely locked-in patients. The German research agency, Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (DFG) found that the s…
Reading about the guy that became unlocked (it wasnt ALS) it always haunts me that it took him a couple days to even know he was locked in At first he thought the nurse was just being unsocial when they came to do routine stuff with him! and then he realized he was in spectator mode Its going to be really hard for a lot of people when they find out whats going on with their locked in or previously locked in loved one…
Literally my greatest nightmare scenario. Nothing scares me more. Similarly, the jaunt is sort of the extreme version of this, and I try not to think about it x_x
Sometimes I have sleep paralysis (very rarely) and it's the worst, scariest feeling.
Re: Completely Locked-In Patients Can Communicate, Thanks to a Brain Implant (BCI)
#6Fascinating. I wonder if nerds like us could optimize the „bitrate“ of this. Lvng out mddl vcls is one vry smpl optn, fr exmpl. There must be even better ways, if you consider the frequency of words, for example. I wouldnt be surprised if one could reduce bits needed to express a sentence by 90%, if those numerologists that proved their worth with predicting Wordle solutions had a look at that.
I suspect some sort of smart prediction system (e.g. Stephen Hawking) would win pretty handily.
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#7Fascinating. I wonder if nerds like us could optimize the „bitrate“ of this. Lvng out mddl vcls is one vry smpl optn, fr exmpl. There must be even better ways, if you consider the frequency of words, for example. I wouldnt be surprised if one could reduce bits needed to express a sentence by 90%, if those numerologists that proved their worth with predicting Wordle solutions had a look at that.
vcls?
Re: Completely Locked-In Patients Can Communicate, Thanks to a Brain Implant (BCI)
#8Fascinating. I wonder if nerds like us could optimize the „bitrate“ of this. Lvng out mddl vcls is one vry smpl optn, fr exmpl. There must be even better ways, if you consider the frequency of words, for example. I wouldnt be surprised if one could reduce bits needed to express a sentence by 90%, if those numerologists that proved their worth with predicting Wordle solutions had a look at that.
vcls?
I read it as vowels, although with a typo. Whether or not the typo is intentional, I guess that shows that we can also error-correct although not with 100% accuracy.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reading about the guy that became unlocked (it wasnt ALS) it always haunts me that it took him a couple days to even know he was locked in At first he thought the nurse was just being unsocial when they came to do routine stuff with him! and then he realized he was in spectator mode Its going to be really hard for a lot of people when they find out whats going on with their locked in or previously locked in loved one…
Literally my greatest nightmare scenario. Nothing scares me more. Similarly, the jaunt is sort of the extreme version of this, and I try not to think about it x_x Sometimes I have sleep paralysis (very rarely) and it's the worst, scariest feeling.
Sleep paralysis is scary. I haven't had it in 30 years, but I remember how shocking it was the first time. Curiously, in my case I also remember distinctly giving up and thinking "well alright, guess I'm going to die, wow" and being calm about it. Then the paralysis wore off.
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#10If this is real, that's a big step. The beginnings of something like shell people in Anne McCaffery's The Ship Who Sang. I wonder if the technology will actually go anywhere.