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CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I kind of hoped that Biden would try and stop this thing from happening anymore. Or Obama... Then I see stuff like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/06/cia-torture-...

No president is going to do anything about it because the intelligence agencies almost certainly have blackmail material on them all

Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I kind of hoped that Biden would try and stop this thing from happening anymore. Or Obama... Then I see stuff like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/06/cia-torture-...

No president is going to do anything about it because the intelligence agencies almost certainly have blackmail material on them all

Blackmail is for mid-level aspiring politicians who get bigger than their britches. A presidential candidate is a smiling face that carries the decision-makers' platform.

Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I kind of hoped that Biden would try and stop this thing from happening anymore. Or Obama... Then I see stuff like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/06/cia-torture-...

No president is going to do anything about it because the intelligence agencies almost certainly have blackmail material on them all

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Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I kind of hoped that Biden would try and stop this thing from happening anymore. Or Obama... Then I see stuff like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/06/cia-torture-...

No president is going to do anything about it because the intelligence agencies almost certainly have blackmail material on them all

A president was recently elected that had more viable blackmail material released about him than any previous president and instead of launching missiles into Sudan like Clinton did a couple days after his scandal, he just slid past it.

Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I kind of hoped that Biden would try and stop this thing from happening anymore. Or Obama... Then I see stuff like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/06/cia-torture-...

Well considering the Biden administration, like the Trump administration before it, said the information should not be disclosed because it would do significant harm to national security. The mention of national security makes me think the issue here is multi faceted.

Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I kind of hoped that Biden would try and stop this thing from happening anymore. Or Obama... Then I see stuff like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/06/cia-torture-...

Well considering the Biden administration, like the Trump administration before it, said the information should not be disclosed because it would do significant harm to national security. The mention of national security makes me think the issue here is multi faceted.

National security is not a get-out-of-democracy-free card. There has to be some way for public opinions about the CIA to loop back around to the congresspeople on the security council, otherwise the system won't work.

Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I kind of hoped that Biden would try and stop this thing from happening anymore. Or Obama... Then I see stuff like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/06/cia-torture-...

No president is going to do anything about it because the intelligence agencies almost certainly have blackmail material on them all

I think that the CIA carries a lot of value for sitting presidents. The organization gives them a lot of power, similar to the military but with less accountability. So far we haven't seen a president that was willing to give up that power for any reason of simple morality. There is something appealing about being able to send an organization out to kill, steal, and spy for you with zero accountability.

I don't think the CIA would need to or even be able to blackmail a sitting president. They are too busy being his second most powerful tool. Like a really good hunting dog. It doesn't matter if it bites some peasants so long as he does a good job for its master.

Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I kind of hoped that Biden would try and stop this thing from happening anymore. Or Obama... Then I see stuff like this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/06/cia-torture-...

Well considering the Biden administration, like the Trump administration before it, said the information should not be disclosed because it would do significant harm to national security. The mention of national security makes me think the issue here is multi faceted.

The likely possibilities are, they all agree it’s necessary for reasons we don’t understand so they condone it—or, the power of the executive branch is diffuse and doesn’t always emanate from the Oval Office. I.e., the so called deep state, career bureaucracy and momentum hold more sway.
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