Help preserve the internet with Archiveteam's warrior
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Help preserve the internet with Archiveteam's warrior
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Re: Help preserve the internet with Archiveteam's warrior
#2Yes!
Archiving is important, we have already seen so much online history gone down the drain or just accidentally saved.
Large institutions like the internet archive are doing an admirable job, but there is a lot of content that they cannot and will not cover. So we will definitely (also) need volunteer-based archival for the foreseeable future.
18TB drives are ~$300 a piece right now, go buy one and help our collective memory!
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#3The Internet Archive has a huge noise to signal ratio, very much in favour of noise. I admire the effort and regularly make use of the quality archives. However, I wonder if much like Bitcoin, tremendous energy and amounts of resources are being put towards very little of value.
Re: Help preserve the internet with Archiveteam's warrior
#4Yes! Archiving is important, we have already seen so much online history gone down the drain or just accidentally saved. Large institutions like the internet archive are doing an admirable job, but there is a lot of content that they cannot and will not cover. So we will definitely (also) need volunteer-based archival for the foreseeable future. 18TB drives are ~$300 a piece right now, go buy one and help our collect…
I kind of wonder how we can make it searchable again. Is this included in this archiving effort?
In any case wonderful work.
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#5The Internet Archive has a huge noise to signal ratio, very much in favour of noise. I admire the effort and regularly make use of the quality archives. However, I wonder if much like Bitcoin, tremendous energy and amounts of resources are being put towards very little of value.
Can you provide some details on this? I'm curious how noise and signal are defined and measured in this case.
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#6The Internet Archive has a huge noise to signal ratio, very much in favour of noise. I admire the effort and regularly make use of the quality archives. However, I wonder if much like Bitcoin, tremendous energy and amounts of resources are being put towards very little of value.
Value is really hard to predict, but as someone who researches a lot in archives, there is no such thing as too little information. Especially if you want the views of several parties or organizations. In anthropology and history research this work (archiving) can be of tremendous value.
Usually it’s hard to say if it’s valuable now , only time can tell.
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#7The Internet Archive has a huge noise to signal ratio, very much in favour of noise. I admire the effort and regularly make use of the quality archives. However, I wonder if much like Bitcoin, tremendous energy and amounts of resources are being put towards very little of value.
I disagree, the unfiltered high noise is what makes it valuable. Curation is a bias.
If someone wants to dive into any topic in the archive 30 years from now they will have access to everything, not access to what some of us deem 'worthy' of curating.
I agree that it makes it harder to find things but I also see the value of IA as a time capsule.
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#8How likely is it you end up downloading child porn on behalf of them? In other words, how well curated or specific is the list of download jobs your node gets assigned? If it's something like "just grab everything from this blog platform" I guess chances are not zero.
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#9The Internet Archive has a huge noise to signal ratio, very much in favour of noise. I admire the effort and regularly make use of the quality archives. However, I wonder if much like Bitcoin, tremendous energy and amounts of resources are being put towards very little of value.
Storing data is cheap and gets cheaper all the time. This isn't a super comparison, but the Internet archive's 2019 revenue is listed as $36.7 mil on Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive).
Hard to compare Bitcoin directly, but its market cap was around $1 billion in 2013 and cleared $1 trillion for the first time a little over a year ago.
I get that this article is about people using their personal computers to help archive things, but I don't think the Internet archive is ever going to be using resources even remotely as aggressively as cryptocurrencies unless they somehow turn all their archiving into cryptocurrency.
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#10How likely is it you end up downloading child porn on behalf of them? In other words, how well curated or specific is the list of download jobs your node gets assigned? If it's something like "just grab everything from this blog platform" I guess chances are not zero.
I think you would be more likely to win the lottery without playing.
That type of content has long moved from clearnet to the darknet. I would be inexplicably surprised if that type of content can be found on the clearnet. But I still can be wrong.
However if you're in the US loli hentai is going to be a risk and legal headache for sure https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/blog/is-loli-illegal-in-the-uni...
As far as I'm aware, maybe excepting Australia (?) as well, in the rest of the world that type of content is not something they'll classify as child pornography, you'll just get a few sketchy looks.