Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
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Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#2The core point made here is wrong.
> 6/ Freedom of speech might require such activities like:
> A website
> A pamphlet
> An advertisement
> Paying a graphic designer
> Travelling to a different location
All of those amplify your speech, but they're not prerequisites for speech. You can speak without any of them - I'm doing it right now!
Same for all the other various things mentioned in this thread. None of the things are requirements for the rights. You can worship and pray without a physical building, you can assemble without buying hot dogs etc etc.
> All of which "cost money".
This is the world that crypto folks want, but it's not the reality (at least yet). You can do plenty of things without money, including exercising said rights. The problem is that they can't conceive that because their worldview is centered around trying to monetize everything and every interaction - interactions that don't involve money aren't valid to them.
Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#3The core point made here is wrong. > 6/ Freedom of speech might require such activities like: > A website > A pamphlet > An advertisement > Paying a graphic designer > Travelling to a different location All of those amplify your speech, but they're not prerequisites for speech. You can speak without any of them - I'm doing it right now! Same for all the other various things mentioned in this thread. None of the thing…
Change freedom of speech to "freedom to realistically effect change", and you'll ultimately end up at the point everyone is dancing around, but no one is willing to say out loud.
Freedom of Speech everyone is all about. Freedom to be Heard is what everyone is in a tizzy about.
You can't buy a printing press without... Money. You can't buy a computer without... Money You can't get an internet connection without... Money.
You can't just pass this off as cryptobros being cryptobros.
Canada is basically saying, no one shall be serviced whose capital is getting allocated to "this".
And that is dangerous, especially when done unilaterally by the executive government. Call me an overly stiff contrarian if you want, but a spade is a spade, whether you want to call it something else. That people are busy playing these semantic games should be reason for pause.
Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#4The core point made here is wrong. > 6/ Freedom of speech might require such activities like: > A website > A pamphlet > An advertisement > Paying a graphic designer > Travelling to a different location All of those amplify your speech, but they're not prerequisites for speech. You can speak without any of them - I'm doing it right now! Same for all the other various things mentioned in this thread. None of the thing…
Change freedom of speech to "freedom to realistically effect change", and you'll ultimately end up at the point everyone is dancing around, but no one is willing to say out loud. Freedom of Speech everyone is all about. Freedom to be Heard is what everyone is in a tizzy about. You can't buy a printing press without... Money. You can't buy a computer without... Money You can't get an internet connection without... Mon…
What you're suggesting comes down to rich people having disproportionally more say.
Taking money out of the equation democratizes speech and makes sure everyone has a say, not just the Peter Thiels that can buy printing presses.
Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
Change freedom of speech to "freedom to realistically effect change", and you'll ultimately end up at the point everyone is dancing around, but no one is willing to say out loud. Freedom of Speech everyone is all about. Freedom to be Heard is what everyone is in a tizzy about. You can't buy a printing press without... Money. You can't buy a computer without... Money You can't get an internet connection without... Mon…
What you're suggesting comes down to rich people having disproportionally more say. Taking money out of the equation democratizes speech and makes sure everyone has a say, not just the Peter Thiels that can buy printing presses.
But taking money out of the equation for only some, and not others, takes us even further from democratization of speech.
Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#6The core point made here is wrong. > 6/ Freedom of speech might require such activities like: > A website > A pamphlet > An advertisement > Paying a graphic designer > Travelling to a different location All of those amplify your speech, but they're not prerequisites for speech. You can speak without any of them - I'm doing it right now! Same for all the other various things mentioned in this thread. None of the thing…
What good is "freedom of speech" if you can only talk to yourself?
Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#7Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#8The core point made here is wrong. > 6/ Freedom of speech might require such activities like: > A website > A pamphlet > An advertisement > Paying a graphic designer > Travelling to a different location All of those amplify your speech, but they're not prerequisites for speech. You can speak without any of them - I'm doing it right now! Same for all the other various things mentioned in this thread. None of the thing…
What good is "freedom of speech" if you can only talk to yourself?
Freedom is speech isn't the freedom to make people listen.
Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#9The core point made here is wrong. > 6/ Freedom of speech might require such activities like: > A website > A pamphlet > An advertisement > Paying a graphic designer > Travelling to a different location All of those amplify your speech, but they're not prerequisites for speech. You can speak without any of them - I'm doing it right now! Same for all the other various things mentioned in this thread. None of the thing…
What good is "freedom of speech" if you can only talk to yourself?
You clearly listened to me. I didn't spend any money on that. Case in point.
Re: Great thread on what’s problematic with Canada’s anti-protest actions
#10The core point made here is wrong. > 6/ Freedom of speech might require such activities like: > A website > A pamphlet > An advertisement > Paying a graphic designer > Travelling to a different location All of those amplify your speech, but they're not prerequisites for speech. You can speak without any of them - I'm doing it right now! Same for all the other various things mentioned in this thread. None of the thing…
> All of those amplify your speech, but they're not prerequisites for speech. You can speak without any of them - I'm doing it right now!
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