The Promise of the Web
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The Promise of the Web
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#3The web needs artists, not owners. People who work on the web today are mostly either techies or static visual designers. We need to take those skills and figure out how to harness them to create better final experiences.
Consider computer animation. At first, most of the people who used it were techies or traditional animators. But computer animation was a new medium, and its first success came when Pixar took their technical and aesthetic skill and made them subservient to storytelling. In the process they discovered that voices and music were as important as the company's "core competencies."
The reason that 280 Slides and iCloud blow people away is because they take things which are known to be possible technically and aesthetically, but they make those skills subservient to an overall interactive vision that borders on art.
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#4A response to Joe Hewitt's "Web Technologies need an Owner"
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#5A response to Joe Hewitt's "Web Technologies need an Owner"
Great article by Cappuccino creator and 280 North founder, Tolmasky.
Some relevant links:
HN Discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3024342
The article: http://joehewitt.com/post/web-technologies-need-an-owner/
The original Post on TC: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/30/joe-hewitt-web-development/
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#6A response to Joe Hewitt's "Web Technologies need an Owner"
Suffers the same problem: long on words, very short on evidence. It's theology.
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#7I think Google's Native Client is our best chance for something like what he describes.
It provides a sandbox for executing untrusted machine code (or PNaCl for more portable LLVM bytecode), downloaded on the fly, which would enable efficient implementations of things like HTML/CSS/JS.
I look forward to the day someone gets a browser rendering engine compiled and running in NaCl.
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#8A response to Joe Hewitt's "Web Technologies need an Owner"
Suffers the same problem: long on words, very short on evidence. It's theology.
Care to elaborate? I feel that I went out of my way to provide a number of pertinent examples.
I pointed to the trend of traditional web properties moving to native apps when it came to mobile. Things like nytimes, economist, and even Facebook.
I discussed how most new social networks on mobile that have gained any traction or attention (such as FourSquare and Path) were largely a native phenomenon (even Google+ chose to have a native iPhone app).
I talked about very real examples of how Flash was important in the development of the web.
I believe that there are a lot of valid counterpoints to my argument, and I'm actually really interested in hearing and thinking about them. However, I don't think hand-waiving it away as "theology" is one of them.
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#10A response to Joe Hewitt's "Web Technologies need an Owner"
Suffers the same problem: long on words, very short on evidence. It's theology.
I thought this was very well written and clear. These authors bring up a very valid point. Not really sure if the web can reinvent itself. Java applets and Flash both failed along the same lines. Maybe the web (and HTTP) is only good for relaying information and rich experiences will always be native. It doesn't have to be that way, it just is.