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Re: Back-end languages are coming to the front-end

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Funnily enough, PHP (like, old school PHP) is a surprisingly neat fit for this style of programming when combined with htmx[0]

Tiny amount of glue HTML attributes, a heap of partials that are your PHP files and you’re good to go.

What is old is new again I suppose: we used to do this with PHP and jQuery once upon a time too — though LiveView and similar are far nicer of course.

I’ve been working on some personal tools with nothing more than Deno and htmx. Works quite well for my needs!

[0] https://htmx.org/

Re: Back-end languages are coming to the front-end

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When is the world of software going to wake up? All programming languages suck, in one way or another. All frontend/backend paradigms suck, in one way or another. This constant churn of new, new, new is a waste. It gets replaced every few years, meaning all the time, effort and money sucked into it is gone. And engineers re-learn the same lessons over, and over, and over again. All so software engineers can be happy, because they just like doing new things in newly complicated ways. It's like changing how we build houses every few years just for fun, with no benefit to the people eventually living in that home. We're definitely not saving them money or building them any faster.

Re: Back-end languages are coming to the front-end

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Initially, I thought this was going to be about WASM, based on the title.

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The thing about rendering and processing things server-side and relying on very little, if any, JavaScript is that it makes it possible to send very small amounts of data to the client but still handle demanding tasks.

There's something to be said for making a website usable for even the most anemic of client hardware.

Re: Back-end languages are coming to the front-end

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When is the world of software going to wake up? All programming languages suck, in one way or another. All frontend/backend paradigms suck, in one way or another. This constant churn of new, new, new is a waste. It gets replaced every few years, meaning all the time, effort and money sucked into it is gone. And engineers re-learn the same lessons over, and over, and over again. All so software engineers can be happy,…

The churn keeps me employed :)

Re: Back-end languages are coming to the front-end

#10

When is the world of software going to wake up? All programming languages suck, in one way or another. All frontend/backend paradigms suck, in one way or another. This constant churn of new, new, new is a waste. It gets replaced every few years, meaning all the time, effort and money sucked into it is gone. And engineers re-learn the same lessons over, and over, and over again. All so software engineers can be happy,…

No offense, but that’s sort of a bitter take on software development and reads like a middle manager who has contempt for software engineers.
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