This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system
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Re: This app does not support the App Store’s private and secure payment system
#2From "Distributing dating apps in the Netherlands" (https://developer.apple.com/support/storekit-external-entitl...) section "Displaying the in-app modal sheet".
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#3Apple knows it is a scam and they are getting away with it by making the user experience painful for the user and developers, whilst still being 'compliant'.
(And also collecting the 27% regardless. 3% goes to the payment processors)
Quite an unsurprising string of negatives for everyone which frustrates the user to choose in-app purchases in the end. Deliberately making outside payments not worth it for everyone.
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#4It's really time to do what needs to be done.
I want the EU to force Apple and Google to allow 3rd party app stores with the exact same rights as theirs (auto updated etc.). Just like back in the day when Microsoft was forced to let users allow other browser when it wasn't even being blocked. Just theirs was pre-installed!
The security excuse doesn't cut it, sorry. 3rd party app stores can be just as secure if not even more being smaller and able to properly vet apps.
This closed eco-system hinders innovation. Apps that compete with apple or google routinely get blocked or removed.
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#5Despite Apple's warnings about "security" and "privacy", the 27% commission shows their bottom line is really about getting a cut.
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#6I'm sure I'm in a minority here, but I think this is good. As a consumer, I want to be warned if there's something that's going to deviate from my system's norms, especially if it could take money from me.
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#7It's really time to do what needs to be done. I want the EU to force Apple and Google to allow 3rd party app stores with the exact same rights as theirs (auto updated etc.). Just like back in the day when Microsoft was forced to let users allow other browser when it wasn't even being blocked. Just theirs was pre-installed! The security excuse doesn't cut it, sorry. 3rd party app stores can be just as secure if not ev…
A fine goal, and I approve strongly, but I worry that without a real understanding of what has happened in China, the outcome might be prices like China's (50% cut being typical, https://archive.fo/5dvsz). And IMO, anyone who says "well, obviously the only reason…" doesn't really understand.
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#8The whole ecosystem around Apple products seems to be a commitment to producing e-waste in the short-term. It's really bizarre.
A 20 year old PC still works. It might be slow, but as long as it's 64-bit, you can run modern software. If it's older and 32-bit you might be struggling but it's at least theoretically possible.
By contrast Apple seem hell-bent on creating this environment in which they control the software environment so completely that as soon as they stop supporting it, that's it, you now have a brick.
I feel like this is the angle that needs to be pushed on harder. The payment processing thing is just one aspect of a wider system which is that they're selling a subscription to a device rather than the device itself because they attempt to control your use of the device end-to-end and will eventually remove your ability to meaningfully use it.
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#9I think that the best way for Apple to conform to all those regulations would be dual-tiering the iPhone (which I know they avoided for years) in software or even by two box designs.
One would be "casual" iPhone (called just iPhone or iPhone Family), that'd have all the safety warnings, walled garden exits notification etc. etc., and then there would be "expert" edition or whatever, where there would be minimal notifications + link to menu where one could disable those notification/customize more/allow for more unsafe automations and such. Maybe even with swapping one to another in a hard way (for example requiring resetting full phone and re-linking it again - so it cannot be casually by convincing someone to).
I understand that for some people Apple is monopolist and closed garden, but for me my family this is exactly what I want. They don't care for security, 3rd party providers, iCloud storage options or how to not lose their photos and videos - and I don't want to be made to care for them for updates, configuration, security etc, and receive a call phone very single time they are confused by dialog (with state-mandated COVID app I spent ~40m with multiple people each on phone clicking them through the app).
I always believed that if someone wanted to tinker and hack around Android was the choice, if someone didn't care and wanted a phone that "just works" with sensible defaults and lack of knobs they'd go for iPhone. What's the dumb option now?
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#10It's really time to do what needs to be done. I want the EU to force Apple and Google to allow 3rd party app stores with the exact same rights as theirs (auto updated etc.). Just like back in the day when Microsoft was forced to let users allow other browser when it wasn't even being blocked. Just theirs was pre-installed! The security excuse doesn't cut it, sorry. 3rd party app stores can be just as secure if not ev…
Supported side-loading is a thing on Android since day one? What innovation came out of this? Thousands of rip-off apps, all sort of malware pushed upon clueless users? I know, that some of those things are still a problem on iOS, but just imagine how worse this can gen, if they would be forced to open up the system for additional app stores.