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Tell HN: Google doesn't work anymore for exact matches

#1
It's been a while since I have felt that Google's results have deteriorated. It takes a lot of tricks to find what I am looking for. Today an interesting case occurred that frustrated me a lot and is worth telling HN.

First, I was looking for a song and searched for: "here were the dreams are born" (I know I mistyped). One of the first results I found was this interesting story (Google results https://imgur.com/a/gUq4XVZ):

https://mechahuggermr.tripod.com/id66.html

I took the following sentence from this story and used it in the readme of an internal project:

"David, we have been expecting you - this is what you have been searching for - this place, David, is where dreams are born"

Some people wanted to know where this quote came from and could not find it on Google.

I also tested and cannot enter any combination of parameters into Google to find this page. I tried quotation marks, literal search and no hyphen. Nothing, it is impossible to find it.

Does anyone know what is going on here? Can someone do a magic call and find this page on Google?

Has Google's AI/BERT Enhanced Search reached a point where indexed pages can not be found?

All results were tested with a Brazilian connection and replicated in a Private Session on an US VPN.

Re: Tell HN: Google doesn't work anymore for exact matches

#5
Google finds it for: "David, is where dreams are born.”"

And: "The voice was deep and melodious when it spoke."

And most other things. Examine the raw HTML for that area and you might give them a pass when searching for an exact phrase that doesn't actually exist in the document itself.

Re: Tell HN: Google doesn't work anymore for exact matches

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post #6

Curiously, searching directly on the site with that quote produces "No results found," and then shows an inexact match with just that quote underneath. This is clearly a real bug on Google's side. https://imgur.com/a/2XFogU5

I may have figured it out. The site is committing hijinks with the text. They're manually wrapping text with `
`'s and then manually wrapping the source with spaces. Here's the HTML of the lines in question:

    The voice was deep and melodious when it spoke. “David, we have been 
expecting you - this is what you have been searching for - this place,
David, is where dreams are born.” It was at this moment David realized
the being was speaking to him with its own voice, not by thought. David
stood unmoving. He realized he had never dreamed before or even had ever
slept.
If you search for same-line sentence fragments you'll find the page: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+voice+was+deep+and+me.... Not an excuse: this is a case Google should handle.

For posterity: https://imgur.com/a/DAUpLit

Re: Tell HN: Google doesn't work anymore for exact matches

#10
Fwiw, the original page is formatted oddly. The line breaks seem like they're part of the content? As opposed to them just being one big paragraph that is wrapped by a single tag?

E.g. try doing this search, with each individual line quoted separately: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22David%2C+we+have+been%22+...

My question at this point is -- did this literal search ever work on Google?

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