Julia Macros for Beginners
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Julia Macros for Beginners
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Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#2This is an excellent, clear introduction to a topic that’s not easy to explain to beginners.
Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#3As always, I'm very glad to see that structural, Common Lisp-style macro systems with the whole language available for macro construction, have been successfully adopted in other languages to the point where it's possible to explain them without a single mention of Lisp in the article, or even better - where a mention of Lisp anywhere else except for the very beginning would make the article worse by making a unnecessary detour.
pg's article on the topic, "What Made Lisp Different", [0] has aged poorly, and points 8 and 9 it makes (a notation for code using trees of symbols and the whole language always available) are no longer Lisp-specific. The final point, about "inventing a new dialect of Lisp", doesn't hold true either - as seen here, Julia is doing just fine not claiming to be another dialect of Lisp, even though many sources mention directly that it's Lisp-inspired.
Congrats to Julia people for the macro system and to the author for the article!
Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#4As always, I'm very glad to see that structural, Common Lisp-style macro systems with the whole language available for macro construction, have been successfully adopted in other languages to the point where it's possible to explain them without a single mention of Lisp in the article, or even better - where a mention of Lisp anywhere else except for the very beginning would make the article worse by making a unneces…
One could argue that Julia is just Lisp with a syntax that appeals more to popular taste.
There is also a secret option to get into a lisp repl in Julia "julia --lisp".
Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#5As always, I'm very glad to see that structural, Common Lisp-style macro systems with the whole language available for macro construction, have been successfully adopted in other languages to the point where it's possible to explain them without a single mention of Lisp in the article, or even better - where a mention of Lisp anywhere else except for the very beginning would make the article worse by making a unneces…
One could argue that Julia is just Lisp with a syntax that appeals more to popular taste. There is also a secret option to get into a lisp repl in Julia "julia --lisp".
Sure, that's always an option - same as Dylan, in a way!
Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
One could argue that Julia is just Lisp with a syntax that appeals more to popular taste. There is also a secret option to get into a lisp repl in Julia "julia --lisp".
Sure, that's always an option - same as Dylan, in a way!
Julia does take inspiration from Dylan and Scheme(the parser is even written in it) so it makes sense I guess
Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#7As always, I'm very glad to see that structural, Common Lisp-style macro systems with the whole language available for macro construction, have been successfully adopted in other languages to the point where it's possible to explain them without a single mention of Lisp in the article, or even better - where a mention of Lisp anywhere else except for the very beginning would make the article worse by making a unneces…
One could argue that Julia is just Lisp with a syntax that appeals more to popular taste. There is also a secret option to get into a lisp repl in Julia "julia --lisp".
> There is also a secret option to get into a lisp repl in Julia "julia --lisp".
Wtf....... what? I just tried it, it's true. Is this some easter egg?
Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
One could argue that Julia is just Lisp with a syntax that appeals more to popular taste. There is also a secret option to get into a lisp repl in Julia "julia --lisp".
> There is also a secret option to get into a lisp repl in Julia "julia --lisp". Wtf....... what? I just tried it, it's true. Is this some easter egg?
Julia's parser is written in Scheme using femtolisp. Look for *.scm files and the 'flisp' directory in the repo[1].
Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#9As always, I'm very glad to see that structural, Common Lisp-style macro systems with the whole language available for macro construction, have been successfully adopted in other languages to the point where it's possible to explain them without a single mention of Lisp in the article, or even better - where a mention of Lisp anywhere else except for the very beginning would make the article worse by making a unneces…
One could argue that Julia is just Lisp with a syntax that appeals more to popular taste. There is also a secret option to get into a lisp repl in Julia "julia --lisp".
yeah it doesn't take much eye squinting to see lisp in julia. given these similarities i wonder if julia users could start to appreciate the s-expression syntax. i come from matlab then python background and i have come to really enjoy the s-expression syntax. modern IDE tools have made s-expression code as readable as pythonic pseudo-code-like syntax while affording the programmer unrivaled editing power
Re: Julia Macros for Beginners
#10Julia macros are pretty legit. Right up there with Rust macros.