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Apple Destroys Lightning

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The iPad Pros with lightning (except the 9.7") support USB 3. The connector can already do it and Apple brand USB C to Lightning cables support it if the device does, in addition to the USB 3 camera connection kit. They just haven't bothered either because they feel the space of a USB 3 controller is better served elsewhere or they just don't care. I kind of feel they'd rather people feel pressured to need a Mac with Airdrop or an iCloud subscription to get photos/videos off in timely manner.

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Apple did not create the usb-c connector. At all. A team at Google in the chrome universe did. I can't remember if they were officially part of the Chromebook team, but I believe they were. Apple did not engage until well after it happened. I'm not sure why the myth persists (I believe Gruber started it) but it's totally wrong, and takes credit away from a group of people who worked very hard on it.

It's also easy to show it's wrong for anyone with access to the USB working group notes and meetings when it happened. Again, it's been a long time, but my recollection is that Apple didn't even attend the meeting where the connector was first submitted.

As far as I can discern, silence by Google was a condition of Apple adopting it, which already sucks for the people who created it, so let's not go further and totally retcon who created it.

Re: Apple Destroys Lightning

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Apple did not create the usb-c connector. At all. A team at Google in the chrome universe did. I can't remember if they were officially part of the Chromebook team, but I believe they were. Apple did not engage until well after it happened. I'm not sure why the myth persists (I believe Gruber started it) but it's totally wrong, and takes credit away from a group of people who worked very hard on it. It's also easy to…

Looking around, it doesn't seem like Google were the progenitors either, but were the first to adopt it.

From what I can find, Intel are constantly at the forefront of all mentions when trying to define USB 3 and positioning the USB C connector for it.

This article is far from definitive, but it's the best amalgamation of the bits I could also find separately https://9to5mac.com/2015/03/14/apple-invent-usb-type-c/

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USB-C is strange because the port that is used for charging is also used for communication and can act as a charger itself. I'm also not used to laptop chargers (MacBook and Thinkpad for example) being interchangeable. I'm always left wondering if I might fry something. I assume no, but it isn't worth experimenting with.

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USB-C is strange because the port that is used for charging is also used for communication and can act as a charger itself. I'm also not used to laptop chargers (MacBook and Thinkpad for example) being interchangeable. I'm always left wondering if I might fry something. I assume no, but it isn't worth experimenting with.

You don't need to experiment. You're not going to fry your laptop. Unless the power supply is specifically designed to fry whatever it's connected to.

Re: Apple Destroys Lightning

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The iPad Pros with lightning (except the 9.7") support USB 3. The connector can already do it and Apple brand USB C to Lightning cables support it if the device does, in addition to the USB 3 camera connection kit. They just haven't bothered either because they feel the space of a USB 3 controller is better served elsewhere or they just don't care. I kind of feel they'd rather people feel pressured to need a Mac with…

I kind of feel they'd rather people feel pressured to need a Mac with Airdrop or an iCloud subscription to get photos/videos off in timely manner

No.

Anyone who’s worked closely with Apple knows this isn’t how Apple operates.

If you separate out some of the literary flourishes, the article tells you how Apple ended up in this situation.

Besides, using a Mac and AirDrop with or without iCloud doesn’t solve the fundamental issue of getting tens or hundreds of gigabytes of video off a iPhone 13 efficiently.

We see this all the time that different parts of the company are on different schedules. The $329 entry level iPad has some features the mainstream $599 iPad Air doesn’t have, like Center Stage. That will get corrected this spring but it certainly caused some head scratching during the holiday shopping season.

Apple knows they need to solve this for pro users and it’s kind of embarrassing—hence the tone of the article—they haven’t yet.

Re: Apple Destroys Lightning

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USB-C is strange because the port that is used for charging is also used for communication and can act as a charger itself. I'm also not used to laptop chargers (MacBook and Thinkpad for example) being interchangeable. I'm always left wondering if I might fry something. I assume no, but it isn't worth experimenting with.

You don't need to experiment. You're not going to fry your laptop. Unless the power supply is specifically designed to fry whatever it's connected to.

Or you use cables that manipulate the charging protocol incorrectly:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/424287/beware-bad-usb-c-cabl...

Re: Apple Destroys Lightning

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USB-C is strange because the port that is used for charging is also used for communication and can act as a charger itself. I'm also not used to laptop chargers (MacBook and Thinkpad for example) being interchangeable. I'm always left wondering if I might fry something. I assume no, but it isn't worth experimenting with.

You don't need to experiment. You're not going to fry your laptop. Unless the power supply is specifically designed to fry whatever it's connected to.

My official Raspberry Pi 4 USB-C power supply would like to have a word with you. It just sends out power.
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