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American Airlines and The Points Guy are suing each other

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Re: American Airlines and The Points Guy are suing each other

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/customer-service/support/legal-infor...

"Unless otherwise noted, all information, AAdvantage® account information, articles, data, images, passwords, Personal Identification Numbers ("PINs"), screens, text, user names, Web pages, or other materials (collectively "Content") appearing on the Site are the exclusive property of American Airlines Group, Inc., or American Airlines, Inc., or their subsidiaries and affiliates"

"You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise."

Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me.

Re: American Airlines and The Points Guy are suing each other

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I honestly don’t know who to root for here. TPG is one of my favorite sites, but American is one of my favorite airlines.

TPG 100%. If AA wins this, it means _in general_ it is possible to further limit programmatic access to content, you as a user, should have access as you see fit.

Re: American Airlines and The Points Guy are suing each other

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I can't seem to find a reason why "screen scraping" is important here, as oppose to just scraping?

My understanding is that screen scraping is taking a picture of the rendered website and using an OCR or some other sort of recognition tools to extract the data.

If it is just scraping - it should be perfectly legal right?

Re: American Airlines and The Points Guy are suing each other

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post #6

https://www.aa.com/i18n/customer-service/support/legal-infor... "Unless otherwise noted, all information, AAdvantage® account information, articles, data, images, passwords, Personal Identification Numbers ("PINs"), screens, text, user names, Web pages, or other materials (collectively "Content") appearing on the Site are the exclusive property of American Airlines Group, Inc., or American Airlines, Inc., or their su…

It is cut and dry what they want, but the question is, do the terms give them merely the right to terminate your account... or to sue you?

Re: American Airlines and The Points Guy are suing each other

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I can't seem to find a reason why "screen scraping" is important here, as oppose to just scraping? My understanding is that screen scraping is taking a picture of the rendered website and using an OCR or some other sort of recognition tools to extract the data. If it is just scraping - it should be perfectly legal right?

It's against their ToS. The court is trying to decide what kind of a contract a ToS is. This will have implications for anyone writing software covered under a ToS... and anyone using it.
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