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My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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> ...there are apps in KaiOS Store...

A phone that can run apps doesn't count as a dumbphone on my book. Do I use the term differently than most people? When I think of dumb phone, I think of the StarTAC, probably because it was my first. The RAZR was dumb, too, in my mind. A modern example for me is the Punkt MP02. It runs Android, technically, but you wouldn't know it, because you can dobmuch with it but, you know, use it as a phone. That's dumb to me, a phone that is a mostly just a phone.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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I switched from an iPhone to Nokia 515 two years ago and vowed never to go back. If I wrote a blog post like this it would probably just be, "Living smartphone-free in the 2020's is like having a superpower, it's utter joy and freedom and and everyone still with a smartphone is a total sucker."

Then a couple of weeks ago I felt the social pressure and lack of a good camera so I bought an iPhone 12 mini. It was awful. I returned it 48 hours later and am now back with my beloved Nokia.

The grass really is greener this side of the fence.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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> ...there are apps in KaiOS Store... A phone that can run apps doesn't count as a dumbphone on my book. Do I use the term differently than most people? When I think of dumb phone, I think of the StarTAC, probably because it was my first. The RAZR was dumb, too, in my mind. A modern example for me is the Punkt MP02. It runs Android, technically, but you wouldn't know it, because you can dobmuch with it but, you know,…

Yeah, this thing supports all popular apps, has Google Assistant, email, cloud sync..

I'd personally define "dumb phone" as one that doesn't use the internet at all, period.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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I switched from an iPhone to Nokia 515 two years ago and vowed never to go back. If I wrote a blog post like this it would probably just be, "Living smartphone-free in the 2020's is like having a superpower, it's utter joy and freedom and and everyone still with a smartphone is a total sucker." Then a couple of weeks ago I felt the social pressure and lack of a good camera so I bought an iPhone 12 mini. It was awful.…

Out of curiosity, what was awful about the recent iPhone experience?

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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This is not a "dumbphone"; those don't exist anymore now that the 3G networks have been turned off.

This "dumb" phone has an entire main-CPU OS, a web browser (!), and then another entire OS on the modem chip (which, of course, runs code which you have absolutely no influence over).

I miss dumbphones.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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I switched from an iPhone to Nokia 515 two years ago and vowed never to go back. If I wrote a blog post like this it would probably just be, "Living smartphone-free in the 2020's is like having a superpower, it's utter joy and freedom and and everyone still with a smartphone is a total sucker." Then a couple of weeks ago I felt the social pressure and lack of a good camera so I bought an iPhone 12 mini. It was awful.…

How do you deal with getting around (public transit timing, driving directions/traffic, uber/lyft) without a smartphone?

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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I switched from an iPhone to Nokia 515 two years ago and vowed never to go back. If I wrote a blog post like this it would probably just be, "Living smartphone-free in the 2020's is like having a superpower, it's utter joy and freedom and and everyone still with a smartphone is a total sucker." Then a couple of weeks ago I felt the social pressure and lack of a good camera so I bought an iPhone 12 mini. It was awful.…

Does your phone still actually work?

You must not be in the US... that is a 3G phone and the 3G networks here are either shut off or in the process of being shut off.

https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_515-5663.php

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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I switched from an iPhone to Nokia 515 two years ago and vowed never to go back. If I wrote a blog post like this it would probably just be, "Living smartphone-free in the 2020's is like having a superpower, it's utter joy and freedom and and everyone still with a smartphone is a total sucker." Then a couple of weeks ago I felt the social pressure and lack of a good camera so I bought an iPhone 12 mini. It was awful.…

How do you deal with getting around (public transit timing, driving directions/traffic, uber/lyft) without a smartphone?

Standalone GPS units still work just fine; same with public bus timetables.

You might have to give up uber. It's worth it though.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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> ...there are apps in KaiOS Store... A phone that can run apps doesn't count as a dumbphone on my book. Do I use the term differently than most people? When I think of dumb phone, I think of the StarTAC, probably because it was my first. The RAZR was dumb, too, in my mind. A modern example for me is the Punkt MP02. It runs Android, technically, but you wouldn't know it, because you can dobmuch with it but, you know,…

Yeah, this thing supports all popular apps, has Google Assistant, email, cloud sync.. I'd personally define "dumb phone" as one that doesn't use the internet at all, period.

I agree. I guess if you have all those apps, but can't install any further apps, it's a "feature phone".
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