San Francisco Police Illegally Used Surveillance Cameras at George Floyd Protest
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#2"As Black and Latinx activists, we are outraged—but not surprised—by rich and powerful people supporting illegal police surveillance. "
I'm kind of surprised that these neighborhoods don't want cameras TO be monitored / available to police - they are the center of relative high levels of criminal activity.
During these peaceful protests I think something like 30 business were looted or destroyed in the union square area alone?
In other countries all this actually results in INCREASED CCTV etc use. Just interesting that such use is becoming illegal in SF.
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#3Might be an unpopular opinion, but if I owned a business that provided for my employees and my family in the area where these disturbances* were occurring and had cameras, you bet I’d be trying to get access to those feeds to the police that I pay to protect the law-abiding citizens of the area.
Same story if I had cameras covering the Jan 6th, 2021 events.
* - I’m trying to use as neutral language as possible.
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#4"As Black and Latinx activists, we are outraged—but not surprised—by rich and powerful people supporting illegal police surveillance. " I'm kind of surprised that these neighborhoods don't want cameras TO be monitored / available to police - they are the center of relative high levels of criminal activity. During these peaceful protests I think something like 30 business were looted or destroyed in the union square a…
Note the word "activists" in the quote. Activists are not always representative of the communities they come from. Survey data shows that most blacks and Latinos in the US want more policing in their communities. Idk how they feel specifically about the camera question
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#5"As Black and Latinx activists, we are outraged—but not surprised—by rich and powerful people supporting illegal police surveillance. " I'm kind of surprised that these neighborhoods don't want cameras TO be monitored / available to police - they are the center of relative high levels of criminal activity. During these peaceful protests I think something like 30 business were looted or destroyed in the union square a…
Ethnic “activists,” especially in the upper echelons, are often socialized into white-dominated institutions such as universities, and largely reflect the views of the highly educated whites in their circle.
Note the tell—just 3% of Hispanics and Latinos would describe their group using the term “Latinx.” https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in.... Many actively dislike being called that: https://twitter.com/RubenGallego/status/1467920180135276554. It’s a term popularized by highly educated white people and used by minorities whose peers are mainly highly educated white people.
This discrepancy became starkly apparent to me during the recent spate of hate crimes against Asians. The “activists” on CNN were blaming it on Trump and “white supremacy.” I strongly suspected my Bangladeshi immigrant aunts and uncles would instead have blamed gang bangers, aggressive homeless people, etc. I actually had to quietly reach out to my “raised in Queens” card carrying Chinese friend for a guy check to confirm that, yes, the violence was caused by gang members and homeless people, not “white supremacy.”
Turns out that not only did Asians in NYC end up supporting Yang and Adams, who took a tougher stance on crime, a shocking number voted for Sliwa even after Adams won the Democratic nomination. Matt Yglesias accurately summarized the issue in an article: https://www.slowboring.com/p/yang-gang
> However, I think a more important point about Yang versus the activists here is that it reveals — and not for the first time — that progressive identity-oriented activist organizations often have very little connection to the groups they purport to represent. You can listen to these groups if you want to. But if your purpose in listening to them is to understand how certain communities are thinking about specific issues, you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Re: San Francisco Police Illegally Used Surveillance Cameras at George Floyd Protest
#6"As Black and Latinx activists, we are outraged—but not surprised—by rich and powerful people supporting illegal police surveillance. " I'm kind of surprised that these neighborhoods don't want cameras TO be monitored / available to police - they are the center of relative high levels of criminal activity. During these peaceful protests I think something like 30 business were looted or destroyed in the union square a…
Ethnic “activists,” especially in the upper echelons, are often socialized into white-dominated institutions such as universities, and largely reflect the views of the highly educated whites in their circle. Note the tell—just 3% of Hispanics and Latinos would describe their group using the term “Latinx.” https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in... . Many actively dislike being called that: https:…
...just 3% of Hispanics and Latinos would describe their group using the term “Latinx.”
It's a great neologism; mispronounced (identically) in both Spanish and English! I said this word twice before I was strongly encouraged not to do so by those it theoretically describes.
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#7"As Black and Latinx activists, we are outraged—but not surprised—by rich and powerful people supporting illegal police surveillance. " I'm kind of surprised that these neighborhoods don't want cameras TO be monitored / available to police - they are the center of relative high levels of criminal activity. During these peaceful protests I think something like 30 business were looted or destroyed in the union square a…
Note the word "activists" in the quote. Activists are not always representative of the communities they come from. Survey data shows that most blacks and Latinos in the US want more policing in their communities. Idk how they feel specifically about the camera question
I'm pretty sure the blacks and Latinos who had their small businesses looted and/or vandalized and/or burned would be all for nice high resolution cameras with enough lumens to identify people (or at least get a really, really good description).
And no, not all small businesses have insurance that covers damage from a riot and/or swarm lootfest with no raised rates or titanic deductible. And even if they did, they might not get covered next year (this has happened to some vineyards in Napa after the recent major fires).
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#8"As Black and Latinx activists, we are outraged—but not surprised—by rich and powerful people supporting illegal police surveillance. " I'm kind of surprised that these neighborhoods don't want cameras TO be monitored / available to police - they are the center of relative high levels of criminal activity. During these peaceful protests I think something like 30 business were looted or destroyed in the union square a…
Seriously, who say Latinx? We talk now about Withex, Axians or Blacus?
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ethnic “activists,” especially in the upper echelons, are often socialized into white-dominated institutions such as universities, and largely reflect the views of the highly educated whites in their circle. Note the tell—just 3% of Hispanics and Latinos would describe their group using the term “Latinx.” https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in... . Many actively dislike being called that: https:…
...just 3% of Hispanics and Latinos would describe their group using the term “Latinx.” It's a great neologism; mispronounced (identically) in both Spanish and English! I said this word twice before I was strongly encouraged not to do so by those it theoretically describes.
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#10"As Black and Latinx activists, we are outraged—but not surprised—by rich and powerful people supporting illegal police surveillance. " I'm kind of surprised that these neighborhoods don't want cameras TO be monitored / available to police - they are the center of relative high levels of criminal activity. During these peaceful protests I think something like 30 business were looted or destroyed in the union square a…
Ethnic “activists,” especially in the upper echelons, are often socialized into white-dominated institutions such as universities, and largely reflect the views of the highly educated whites in their circle. Note the tell—just 3% of Hispanics and Latinos would describe their group using the term “Latinx.” https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in... . Many actively dislike being called that: https:…
Sliwa is a throwback to the 80s, just like Trump.