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NSO Pegasus was used by Polish gov against opposition during 2019 elections

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Re: NSO Pegasus was used by Polish gov against opposition during 2019 elections

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And polish press is covering this as "George Soros funded Citizen Lab, we should follow the money!"

https://www.tvp.info/57610595/pegasus-george-soros-sponsoruj...

full translation:

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Brejza's source of information is financed by George Soros

The Citizen Lab group, which is the source of the accusations for the alleged surveillance of Brejza - as well as prosecutor Ewa Brzosek and lawyer Roman G. - itself states on its website that it is financed, inter alia, by by George Soros' Open Society Foundation, as well as several entities indirectly related to this foundation and supporting left-wing organizations, incl. pro-abortion.

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Re: NSO Pegasus was used by Polish gov against opposition during 2019 elections

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And polish press is covering this as "George Soros funded Citizen Lab, we should follow the money!" https://www.tvp.info/57610595/pegasus-george-soros-sponsoruj... full translation: """ Brejza's source of information is financed by George Soros The Citizen Lab group, which is the source of the accusations for the alleged surveillance of Brejza - as well as prosecutor Ewa Brzosek and lawyer Roman G. - itself states on…

Not all polish press. Just the national, govt controlled television. The same that used materials from compromised smartphone of Krzysztof Brejza in 2019

Re: NSO Pegasus was used by Polish gov against opposition during 2019 elections

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PiS, the party ruling in Poland since 2015 used Pegasus spyware about 30 times against Krzysztof Brejza, senator and chief of opposition party electoral campaign during 2019 elections.

And also in 2018 against Roman Giertych - advocate of many opposition figures. Basically it's worse than Watergate (because in Watergate at least they used private funds to do the wiretapping while in this case they defrauded state funds to buy Pegasus licence to wiretap opposition before and during elections).

Sadly Poland is barely a democracy anymore so I'm not sure there will be any consequences. At least not as long as they are in power - because they fully control the prosecution office and just stop any lawsuits against themselves.

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And polish press is covering this as "George Soros funded Citizen Lab, we should follow the money!" https://www.tvp.info/57610595/pegasus-george-soros-sponsoruj... full translation: """ Brejza's source of information is financed by George Soros The Citizen Lab group, which is the source of the accusations for the alleged surveillance of Brejza - as well as prosecutor Ewa Brzosek and lawyer Roman G. - itself states on…

Not all polish press. Just the national, govt controlled television. The same that used materials from compromised smartphone of Krzysztof Brejza in 2019

Yeah I just meant the national (polish) press. I thought fox news was bad but visiting relatives in Poland it was wild to see how much stupid propaganda TVP is spreading.

Re: NSO Pegasus was used by Polish gov against opposition during 2019 elections

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PiS, the party ruling in Poland since 2015 used Pegasus spyware about 30 times against Krzysztof Brejza, senator and chief of opposition party electoral campaign during 2019 elections.

And also in 2018 against Roman Giertych - advocate of many opposition figures. Basically it's worse than Watergate (because in Watergate at least they used private funds to do the wiretapping while in this case they defrauded state funds to buy Pegasus licence to wiretap opposition before and during elections). Sadly Poland is barely a democracy anymore so I'm not sure there will be any consequences. At least not as…

There exists an easy solution for the Polish people if they were smart enough to act, the current government could go the way of Ceausescu.

But I’d guess all the smart people moved to the UK and rest of EU years ago, leaving only the worst to bicker among themselves.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And also in 2018 against Roman Giertych - advocate of many opposition figures. Basically it's worse than Watergate (because in Watergate at least they used private funds to do the wiretapping while in this case they defrauded state funds to buy Pegasus licence to wiretap opposition before and during elections). Sadly Poland is barely a democracy anymore so I'm not sure there will be any consequences. At least not as…

There exists an easy solution for the Polish people if they were smart enough to act, the current government could go the way of Ceausescu. But I’d guess all the smart people moved to the UK and rest of EU years ago, leaving only the worst to bicker among themselves.

PIS has about 30% support. Not enough to win elections. They had about 40% at their peak. It's enough to win elections but not enough to change constitution, which is why they break it constantly.

I don't think a revolution is a good idea. Would probably lead to thousands of deaths. If the next elections are marginally fair they lose and we go from that point. If they mess with the elections to the point of changing the result - at that point revolution is justified and will probably happen.

Re: NSO Pegasus was used by Polish gov against opposition during 2019 elections

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And polish press is covering this as "George Soros funded Citizen Lab, we should follow the money!" https://www.tvp.info/57610595/pegasus-george-soros-sponsoruj... full translation: """ Brejza's source of information is financed by George Soros The Citizen Lab group, which is the source of the accusations for the alleged surveillance of Brejza - as well as prosecutor Ewa Brzosek and lawyer Roman G. - itself states on…

Not all polish press. Just the national, govt controlled television. The same that used materials from compromised smartphone of Krzysztof Brejza in 2019

Which, unfortunately, is all the press many citizens will ever see, since so much 'press' has been brought under government control over the last term. The country is reaching Russia-level repression these days.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There exists an easy solution for the Polish people if they were smart enough to act, the current government could go the way of Ceausescu. But I’d guess all the smart people moved to the UK and rest of EU years ago, leaving only the worst to bicker among themselves.

PIS has about 30% support. Not enough to win elections. They had about 40% at their peak. It's enough to win elections but not enough to change constitution, which is why they break it constantly. I don't think a revolution is a good idea. Would probably lead to thousands of deaths. If the next elections are marginally fair they lose and we go from that point. If they mess with the elections to the point of changing…

They (PiS) are unfortunately well trained in the dark arts of minority rule. All they are doing is applying the extreme right wing playbook [1] to ensure their 30% us enough.

[1] https://www.politico.eu/list/politico-28-class-of-2021-ranki...

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