MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
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MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
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Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#2I find it a bit disingenuous to say that it runs on apple silicon if you need to modify source code. Also it's not because it compiles and starts that it's fully functional.
The main MIT Scheme page say that it's not possible and need significant efforts, so I would be curious to get a description as to why one claim it's impossible while the other show that it compiles and starts.
Are the original authors too much against M1/Apple and justify themselves ? Or does compiling on M1 sort-of works until you hit more complex features that will crash or misbehave ?
Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#3Just a UI comment, the white highlighting of white text on a black/grey background is pretty unreadable in my browser
Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#4Just a UI comment, the white highlighting of white text on a black/grey background is pretty unreadable in my browser
Just turn off dark mode. So many sites have css that claims to support dark mode but doesn’t. The other direction seems less common.
Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#5I find it a bit disingenuous to say that it runs on apple silicon if you need to modify source code. Also it's not because it compiles and starts that it's fully functional. The main MIT Scheme page say that it's not possible and need significant efforts, so I would be curious to get a description as to why one claim it's impossible while the other show that it compiles and starts. Are the original authors too much a…
It's also a bit disingenuous to say it's "on Apple Silicon" when you're running it through a translation layer that won't exist in a few year's time. I'd wager the reason why the GNU folks say it doesn't run on ARM is because... it doesn't. Running it as an x86 program is mandatory, apparently.
Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#6I've been engaged in a 1.5 year long (so far) project to port the entirety of GJS's "scmutils" package over to Clojure, and the erratic behavior of MIT Scheme over Rosetta has been a pain I've consigned myself to for months. I keep an old machine handy when I need to test functions that can't work on the M1.
I am SO HAPPY to see this work! Major timesaver for me and anyone looking to run the executable versions of Functional Differential Geometry[1] and Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics[2] in the original language.
[0] https://github.com/sicmutils/sicmutils [1] https://github.com/sicmutils/fdg-book [2] https://github.com/sicmutils/sicm-book
Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#7I find it a bit disingenuous to say that it runs on apple silicon if you need to modify source code. Also it's not because it compiles and starts that it's fully functional. The main MIT Scheme page say that it's not possible and need significant efforts, so I would be curious to get a description as to why one claim it's impossible while the other show that it compiles and starts. Are the original authors too much a…
It's also a bit disingenuous to say it's "on Apple Silicon" when you're running it through a translation layer that won't exist in a few year's time. I'd wager the reason why the GNU folks say it doesn't run on ARM is because... it doesn't. Running it as an x86 program is mandatory, apparently.
Is it not running on Apple Silicon?
Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#8What's stopping people from just compiling Scheme for ARM? The website has a separate aarch64 download it seems, so why not patch that instead of relying on Rosetta2?
The vfork/fork issue and the compiler upgrade issue don't seem to be too problematic to work around, so there must be some kind of ARM limitation that's preventing Scheme from working, but what?
Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#9I find it a bit disingenuous to say that it runs on apple silicon if you need to modify source code. Also it's not because it compiles and starts that it's fully functional. The main MIT Scheme page say that it's not possible and need significant efforts, so I would be curious to get a description as to why one claim it's impossible while the other show that it compiles and starts. Are the original authors too much a…
It's also a bit disingenuous to say it's "on Apple Silicon" when you're running it through a translation layer that won't exist in a few year's time. I'd wager the reason why the GNU folks say it doesn't run on ARM is because... it doesn't. Running it as an x86 program is mandatory, apparently.
Well they do say that they need rosetta just to compile, that once compiled it "works", though I agree it's still too shallow of an article.
Re: MIT Scheme on Apple Silicon
#10I find it a bit disingenuous to say that it runs on apple silicon if you need to modify source code. Also it's not because it compiles and starts that it's fully functional. The main MIT Scheme page say that it's not possible and need significant efforts, so I would be curious to get a description as to why one claim it's impossible while the other show that it compiles and starts. Are the original authors too much a…
It's also a bit disingenuous to say it's "on Apple Silicon" when you're running it through a translation layer that won't exist in a few year's time. I'd wager the reason why the GNU folks say it doesn't run on ARM is because... it doesn't. Running it as an x86 program is mandatory, apparently.
So Java, Groovy, Scala, Kotlin and Clojure aren't running on x86, nor ARM, nor Apple Silicon?