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Job Applicant Resumes Are Effectively Impossible to De-Gender

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Re: Job Applicant Resumes Are Effectively Impossible to De-Gender

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> The model had learned through historical hiring data that men were more likely to be hired, and therefore rated male resumes higher than female resumes.

A lot of machine learning sounds like the computers are just cargo-culting. But this concrete example is spectacularly so.

Re: Job Applicant Resumes Are Effectively Impossible to De-Gender

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> The model had learned through historical hiring data that men were more likely to be hired, and therefore rated male resumes higher than female resumes. A lot of machine learning sounds like the computers are just cargo-culting. But this concrete example is spectacularly so.

Well, it's not the computers faults that the people designing the system failed to (and probably are completely unable to) provide a proper measure of "value once hired". In the absence of a signal to tell you that you're stuck looking for proxies, and that it then ends up doing the same as many humans and assume that "past success at getting hired" is a good proxy for "value once hired" is not very surprising.

The machine learning is "cargo-culting" in many instances because humans are cargo-culting and thus are creating models that repeat the same motions rather than try to provide qualitatively better data.

But the interesting thing is that in doing so it does reveal a lot of things about human decision making that may help inform improvements.

Re: Job Applicant Resumes Are Effectively Impossible to De-Gender

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If we grant as correvt the reseatch saying upper eshelons of society is filled with sociopaths and psychopaths, https://www.forbes.com/sites/victorlipman/2013/04/25/the-dis...

Can we train ML to recognise them from a CV? Do they revognise each-other?

Re: Job Applicant Resumes Are Effectively Impossible to De-Gender

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Reading the conclusion of the article (not the paper), it sounds like the difference in writing between genders seem to be too strong for current techniques to work.

I'd say the current techniques work too well :)

Also it says something about the current wave of "AI" being able only to mimic the human thought process and not being able to come up with anything different. The I in AI is still out of reach.

Re: Job Applicant Resumes Are Effectively Impossible to De-Gender

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Reading the conclusion of the article (not the paper), it sounds like the difference in writing between genders seem to be too strong for current techniques to work.

I wonder what happens if you work with someone of the opposite sex to prepare your resume.

Re: Job Applicant Resumes Are Effectively Impossible to De-Gender

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FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.

  recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
That explains why my manager was looking specifically for female candidates
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