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Re: Logout4Shell

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Tbh I think that a major nation state’s national security agency should probably run something like this (publicly, with open source) and see if it’s a good tactic for use in the future against major bugs. They should also not use it to gain a foothold in their networks, but show that their defensive mission matters.

It’s not really possible for a private company to do this kind of thing, but I think a state security agency could.

Re: Logout4Shell

#3
Note that in some legislations it may be illegal to use this against other people's systems without their consent.

As long as it doesn't break stuff i guess you are unlikely to be sued.

Re: Logout4Shell

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Tbh I think that a major nation state’s national security agency should probably run something like this (publicly, with open source) and see if it’s a good tactic for use in the future against major bugs. They should also not use it to gain a foothold in their networks, but show that their defensive mission matters. It’s not really possible for a private company to do this kind of thing, but I think a state security…

How would you audit that their server is actually executing the open-source code that they say they are? The incentive for said server to, in certain cases or when detecting certain networks, also install a silent and subtle payload for future backdoor access (which every nation state has in its back pocket for a moment like this) is phenomenally high.

Re: Logout4Shell

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post #4

Tbh I think that a major nation state’s national security agency should probably run something like this (publicly, with open source) and see if it’s a good tactic for use in the future against major bugs. They should also not use it to gain a foothold in their networks, but show that their defensive mission matters. It’s not really possible for a private company to do this kind of thing, but I think a state security…

How would you audit that their server is actually executing the open-source code that they say they are? The incentive for said server to, in certain cases or when detecting certain networks, also install a silent and subtle payload for future backdoor access (which every nation state has in its back pocket for a moment like this) is phenomenally high.

Not to mention that any decent network firewall with up-to-date signatures would probably just end up blocking the “patch.”

Re: Logout4Shell

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post #4

Tbh I think that a major nation state’s national security agency should probably run something like this (publicly, with open source) and see if it’s a good tactic for use in the future against major bugs. They should also not use it to gain a foothold in their networks, but show that their defensive mission matters. It’s not really possible for a private company to do this kind of thing, but I think a state security…

How would you audit that their server is actually executing the open-source code that they say they are? The incentive for said server to, in certain cases or when detecting certain networks, also install a silent and subtle payload for future backdoor access (which every nation state has in its back pocket for a moment like this) is phenomenally high.

You wouldn't. Just like there's nothing to guarantee they're not using this exploit right now as we speak.