ADSL works over wet string (2017)

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Post by mgliwka » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 1:25 PM UTC

ADSL works over wet string (2017)
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Re: ADSL works over wet string (2017)

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Post by traceroute66 » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:00 PM UTC

Why is this 2017 blog suddenly appearing here in 2021 ? Not surprisingly, it has already been covered many times:

     - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15908107
     - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15922239
     - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26868780

The world has also moved on since 2017. Most people's question now is "how soon can I get fibre" not "how can I tweak my ADSL line to scrape some extra performance".

Re: ADSL works over wet string (2017)

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Post by agumonkey » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:00 PM UTC

Since seeing this article I've been curious about organic conductors .. apparently most carbohydrates / celluloses are really not good basis for conduction but maybe there are tricks to change that.

- https://www.quora.com/Is-cellulose-fibre-conductive?share=1

- https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=conducting+polymers+example...

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Post by sdflhasjd » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:02 PM UTC

3.5Mbit!? Says a lot about my parents paltry 1Mbit. Perhaps their line was low on sodium.

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Post by codeflo » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:11 PM UTC

That fact that this delivers 3.5 MBit/s really makes you wonder how many low speed connections out in the wild are literally broken cables that still have some amount of coupling somewhere.

Re: ADSL works over wet string (2017)

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Post by fghorow » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:18 PM UTC

Wet string? OK, fine.

But I defy ADSL to work over something really challenging. Like Telstra copper in Australia.

Re: ADSL works over wet string (2017)

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Post by whalesalad » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:20 PM UTC

codeflo wrote: post #5

That fact that this delivers 3.5 MBit/s really makes you wonder how many low speed connections out in the wild are literally broken cables that still have some amount of coupling somewhere.

Sums up my youth on ADSL in the hills of LA. Couldn't get a static IP address on coax/cable so I convinced my family to pay out the ears for speakeasy.net DSL w/ a static IP. Performance was terrible!

Re: ADSL works over wet string (2017)

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Post by someperson » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

codeflo wrote: post #5

That fact that this delivers 3.5 MBit/s really makes you wonder how many low speed connections out in the wild are literally broken cables that still have some amount of coupling somewhere.

Potentially apocryphal, but Telstra's copper cable network supposedly had its insulation made of paper, not rubber. I remember when it rained the curbside pits fill with water, causing slowdowns and frequent ADSL dropouts (until things dried out).

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Post by iso1631 » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:30 PM UTC

sdflhasjd wrote: post #4

3.5Mbit!? Says a lot about my parents paltry 1Mbit. Perhaps their line was low on sodium.

3.5mbit over 2 metres

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Post by hashimotonomora » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 2:33 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #3

Since seeing this article I've been curious about organic conductors .. apparently most carbohydrates / celluloses are really not good basis for conduction but maybe there are tricks to change that. - https://www.quora.com/Is-cellulose-fibre-conductive?share=1 - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=conducting+polymers+example...

Essentially you need loose electrons to conduct.