China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
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Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#2State belligerence feels like such an intractable problem.
Did we overdo it in Yugoslavia? Did we underdo it in Syria? Are we always damned if we do, damned if we don't?
Do Russia and China simply care less than we do about avoiding violence?
Why does it happen that in our universe offense is so much easier than defense?
If I were military I'd die of stomach ulcers in a year.
Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#3State belligerence feels like such an intractable problem. Did we overdo it in Yugoslavia? Did we underdo it in Syria? Are we always damned if we do, damned if we don't? Do Russia and China simply care less than we do about avoiding violence? Why does it happen that in our universe offense is so much easier than defense? If I were military I'd die of stomach ulcers in a year.
> Do Russia and China simply care less than we do about avoiding violence?
Are you asking this because they fucked with satellites presumably spying on them?
Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#4State belligerence feels like such an intractable problem. Did we overdo it in Yugoslavia? Did we underdo it in Syria? Are we always damned if we do, damned if we don't? Do Russia and China simply care less than we do about avoiding violence? Why does it happen that in our universe offense is so much easier than defense? If I were military I'd die of stomach ulcers in a year.
> Why does it happen that in our universe offense is so much easier than defense?
Easier? Or safer?
Reduced casualties of the home team is among the top metrics optimized for, at least on paper.
Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#5Translation space force general wants a bigger budget for doing exactly what he is accusing other states of doing.
Weather or not this is related to any genuinely new or controversial activity or just that someone wants a bigger budget is one of those things "we the people" are not entitled to know.
It's completely against the ethos of the intelligence services to be truthful about what level of successful espionage is being conducted by opponents and completely unthinkable to admit to any espionage they themselves are conducting so this kind of announcement should not be taken as proof that something new or dangerous is happening, that warrants any kind of escalation.
Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#6State belligerence feels like such an intractable problem. Did we overdo it in Yugoslavia? Did we underdo it in Syria? Are we always damned if we do, damned if we don't? Do Russia and China simply care less than we do about avoiding violence? Why does it happen that in our universe offense is so much easier than defense? If I were military I'd die of stomach ulcers in a year.
> Do Russia and China simply care less than we do about avoiding violence? Are you asking this because they fucked with satellites presumably spying on them?
No, much more generally. Russia recently annexed Crimea and assassinated people in England. China's taking ocean, islands, maybe some of India, makes a lot of noise as if it will take Taiwan. Whereas we (at least used to) try to keep the peace, they seem to simply not give a fuck.
Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#7Translation space force general wants a bigger budget for doing exactly what he is accusing other states of doing. Weather or not this is related to any genuinely new or controversial activity or just that someone wants a bigger budget is one of those things "we the people" are not entitled to know. It's completely against the ethos of the intelligence services to be truthful about what level of successful espionage…
You might be right, but the argument that we should tolerate China or Russia lasering our satellites because the US probably does things its citizens don't know about seems like it's missing something.
Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Do Russia and China simply care less than we do about avoiding violence? Are you asking this because they fucked with satellites presumably spying on them?
No, much more generally. Russia recently annexed Crimea and assassinated people in England. China's taking ocean, islands, maybe some of India, makes a lot of noise as if it will take Taiwan. Whereas we (at least used to) try to keep the peace, they seem to simply not give a fuck.
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Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#9Translation space force general wants a bigger budget for doing exactly what he is accusing other states of doing. Weather or not this is related to any genuinely new or controversial activity or just that someone wants a bigger budget is one of those things "we the people" are not entitled to know. It's completely against the ethos of the intelligence services to be truthful about what level of successful espionage…
You might be right, but the argument that we should tolerate China or Russia lasering our satellites because the US probably does things its citizens don't know about seems like it's missing something.
It's missing the history of independent nation states at peace i.e. this kind of "gunboat" diplomacy is as old as civilization itself and no major power have been able to curtail it's hawks from pulling stunts even when they wanted to and they rarely do.
Re: China and Russia attack US satellites every day: Space Force general says
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Do Russia and China simply care less than we do about avoiding violence? Are you asking this because they fucked with satellites presumably spying on them?
No, much more generally. Russia recently annexed Crimea and assassinated people in England. China's taking ocean, islands, maybe some of India, makes a lot of noise as if it will take Taiwan. Whereas we (at least used to) try to keep the peace, they seem to simply not give a fuck.
Using Yugoslavia as a counterpoint... The conflict created an open slave market where UN soldiers were ordered to guard against "war" but otherwise not get involved. This eventually grew into a European trade network that has enslaved hundreds of thousands of Eastern European women. Dwarfing any war casualty statistics from the war. European politicians have largely been able to brush this under the rug by using ethnicity as a wedge since the perpetrators are technically refugees and not white.
My point is, of all your examples this is the darkest humanitarian crisis but also the least obvious when looked through this kind of framing.
1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1209085.stm
2. https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/files/29-haynes158upalrev1779...