The Magnificent Bribe
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The Magnificent Bribe
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#2> In theorizing the bribe, Mumford had warned that after enough people accept it, “no other choices will remain.
Makes me think of Richard Stallman when we apply this to software.
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#3Mumford's work influenced Jacques Ellul, author of The Technological Society https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSoci...
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#4Interesting that this was formulated so long ago.
But, point of language: "bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole, such as bribing someone to make a purchasing decision with the company's money or a policeman to leave you alone. While you can induce someone to make a decision on their own account, it's no more bribery than my employer is "bribing" me to write software.
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#5Interesting that this was formulated so long ago. But, point of language: "bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole, such as bribing someone to make a purchasing decision with the company's money or a policeman to leave you alone. While you can induce someone to make a decision on their own account, it's no more bribery than my employ…
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#6Interesting that this was formulated so long ago. But, point of language: "bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole, such as bribing someone to make a purchasing decision with the company's money or a policeman to leave you alone. While you can induce someone to make a decision on their own account, it's no more bribery than my employ…
>"bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole
so, what would you call a payment for them to perform their legal duties, like issue a document for example, which they must perform by law, yet aren't going to until you pay?
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#7Interesting that this was formulated so long ago. But, point of language: "bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole, such as bribing someone to make a purchasing decision with the company's money or a policeman to leave you alone. While you can induce someone to make a decision on their own account, it's no more bribery than my employ…
>"bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole so, what would you call a payment for them to perform their legal duties, like issue a document for example, which they must perform by law, yet aren't going to until you pay?
The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act calls that a "grease payment".
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
>"bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole so, what would you call a payment for them to perform their legal duties, like issue a document for example, which they must perform by law, yet aren't going to until you pay?
The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act calls that a "grease payment".
A.K.A. Facilitation/facilitating payment: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facilitating_payment
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#9Interesting that this was formulated so long ago. But, point of language: "bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole, such as bribing someone to make a purchasing decision with the company's money or a policeman to leave you alone. While you can induce someone to make a decision on their own account, it's no more bribery than my employ…
>"bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole so, what would you call a payment for them to perform their legal duties, like issue a document for example, which they must perform by law, yet aren't going to until you pay?
That is also a breach of their responsibilities, and therefore a bribe, because they should be doing it anyway. I'm reminded of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_rupee_note
(does raise the question "if you pay a bribe with something valueless is that still a bribe")
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#10Interesting that this was formulated so long ago. But, point of language: "bribe" only applies when you're inducing someone to breach their responsibilities to someone else or "the system" as a whole, such as bribing someone to make a purchasing decision with the company's money or a policeman to leave you alone. While you can induce someone to make a decision on their own account, it's no more bribery than my employ…
Unless your view is that the incentive destroys the system as a whole. Then it's a bribe again.