Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
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Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#2That's a rather expensive laptop to be happy about how poorly it performs running as a Linux laptop.
The emulator specs are fine if you plan on using MacOS along side a few Linux apps. But if all you want is a Linux laptop, you could save a thousand dollars or more by buying something more appropriate.
Or at least wait to see how the native Linux performs once it is working sufficient enough to make the price of the laptop worthwhile.
Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#3The folks at Asahi Linux post fairly regular progress updates here at HN about their great work.
Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#4That's a rather expensive laptop to be happy about how poorly it performs running as a Linux laptop. The emulator specs are fine if you plan on using MacOS along side a few Linux apps. But if all you want is a Linux laptop, you could save a thousand dollars or more by buying something more appropriate. Or at least wait to see how the native Linux performs once it is working sufficient enough to make the price of the…
> Or at least wait to see how the native Linux performs once it is working sufficient enough to make the price of the laptop worthwhile.
That is indeed the entire point of this article unless I'm missing something.
Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#5The virtualization option mentioned here, before discussing the native option, is QEMU via the UTM app.
I have played a bit with UTM as an emulator, to run x86_64 virtual machines. Emulation is a lot slower than hardware virtualization. No surprise.
UTM/QEMU can also run arm64 machines, but I don't know the best configuration for optimal performance.
The commercial virtualization product Parallels works great for me, but your virtual machines need to be arm64, not x86.
Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#6The folks at Asahi Linux post fairly regular progress updates here at HN about their great work.
Yes the author mentions this in the first couple paragraphs.
Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#7I have a hard time taking this seriously.
Its not 1998 anymore. The idea of building your own disk image to install an OS for general usage is a bit b0rked.
It's different if you're developing that OS or actively porting or something.
Edit: TO be clear, the line " However, MacBooks ship with macOS, an operating system several of us consider much less impressive." changes how the article reads for me. Something like "lets investigate linux performance on these machines" would make this read entirely differently
Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#8I’m surprised to see that I get higher FPS on the WebGL Aquarium on my iPhone 13 Pro Max than the macOS scores. I have to assume this is a combination of being on a new SoC design, driving fewer pixels, and maybe the multitasking model of iOS?
Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#9I have a hard time taking this seriously. Its not 1998 anymore. The idea of building your own disk image to install an OS for general usage is a bit b0rked. It's different if you're developing that OS or actively porting or something. Edit: TO be clear, the line " However, MacBooks ship with macOS, an operating system several of us consider much less impressive." changes how the article reads for me. Something like "…
Maybe it just isn't for you.
The full line is: "Those chips are really impressive. However, MacBooks ship with macOS, an operating system several of us consider much less impressive." That perfectly explains my personal feelings about the issue, which is why I was curious enough to click on this in the first place. If you don't feel the same way, that's a perfectly normal difference of opinion. I do feel this way and I think maybe if I get an M1 MacBook I'll use this post as a guide for how to install a usable OS on it ;)
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> Its not 1998 anymore. The idea of building your own disk image to install an OS for general usage is a bit b0rked.
Installing Arch Linux on an M1 MacBook seems pretty far from "installing an OS for general usage". Arch in general isn't "an OS for general usage". Some people are hobbyists who are willing to do things the hard way. It's fine if you're not one of them. Oftentimes, I'm not one of them, either.
Re: Linux on the M1, with GPU Acceleration
#10I have a hard time taking this seriously. Its not 1998 anymore. The idea of building your own disk image to install an OS for general usage is a bit b0rked. It's different if you're developing that OS or actively porting or something. Edit: TO be clear, the line " However, MacBooks ship with macOS, an operating system several of us consider much less impressive." changes how the article reads for me. Something like "…
Maybe it just isn't for you. The full line is: "Those chips are really impressive. However, MacBooks ship with macOS, an operating system several of us consider much less impressive." That perfectly explains my personal feelings about the issue, which is why I was curious enough to click on this in the first place. If you don't feel the same way, that's a perfectly normal difference of opinion. I do feel this way and…
Yes, that is the whole line. But like i said, it changes what the article is about for that to be in the thesis of the article. It takes it from a exploration to a recommendation.
Considering the other threads going around in other posts today, it's clear that a lot of people on here consider desktop linux to be superior and more user friendly that macOS.
There's a lot of people who seem to think this kind of thing is a thing normal people would be willing to do with their time. Like they think the rest of the world is just like the target audience of hacker news.