14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

If you want to know about specific compatibility issues, I'm happy to try to help as I've been using an M1 Air as my daily driver for many months now.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by porcc » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:31 PM UTC

moneywoes wrote: post #2

Do ARM compatibility issues still exist?

Close to no https://isapplesiliconready.com/for/developer

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by grp000 » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:31 PM UTC

cassianoleal wrote: post #3

moneywoes wrote: post #2

Do ARM compatibility issues still exist?

Of course. Any time you try to run a non-ARM binary on an ARM CPU without some form of translation or emulation, it will fail. This is also true for any other CPU architecture. If you want to know about specific compatibility issues, I'm happy to try to help as I've been using an M1 Air as my daily driver for many months now.

Did they finally get Docker working on the M1 chips?

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by smoldesu » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:31 PM UTC

moneywoes wrote: post #2

Do ARM compatibility issues still exist?

I mean, yeah. You're not going to be running anything 32-bit, and you can't use OpenGL or Vulkan, which already rules out a decent handful of workflows (including but not limited to my own). On top of that, there's legendary Docker issues that plague pretty much anything running MacOS, and there still isn't a competitive, complete package manager. eGPUs are almost completely off the table, and if they do work you won't be allowed to run an Nvidia card, you can't use CUDA, and OpenCL is fully depreciated.

So yeah, there's still quite a few holdouts on the MacOS and ARM side of things. Unless you're confident that your workflow functions perfectly on ARM, you should probably stick with a nice x86 machine for the foreseeable future. Apple will definitely improve on this model, so if you are dead-set on buying one I probably wouldn't spring for the first-gen anyways. Just my two cents though.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by friseurtermin » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:31 PM UTC

cassianoleal wrote: post #3

moneywoes wrote: post #2

Do ARM compatibility issues still exist?

Of course. Any time you try to run a non-ARM binary on an ARM CPU without some form of translation or emulation, it will fail. This is also true for any other CPU architecture. If you want to know about specific compatibility issues, I'm happy to try to help as I've been using an M1 Air as my daily driver for many months now.

> without some form of translation or emulation

IIRC that's why Rosetta2 exists. The question is more whether there are issues despite that

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by ptudan » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:33 PM UTC

I can fit a 16" MBP in my backpack. Your mileage may vary.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by cassianoleal » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:34 PM UTC

grp000 wrote: post #5

cassianoleal wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course. Any time you try to run a non-ARM binary on an ARM CPU without some form of translation or emulation, it will fail. This is also true for any other CPU architecture. If you want to know about specific compatibility issues, I'm happy to try to help as I've been using an M1 Air as my daily driver for many months now.

Did they finally get Docker working on the M1 chips?

Docker works mostly fine. ARM images are pretty common, and for those that don't have it, it runs a QEMU emulated x86 machine.

I have hit issues with it but they're rare enough that I don't care.

Re: 14-inch MacBook Pro review: A Mac Pro in your backpack

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Post by X-Istence » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 3:34 PM UTC

grp000 wrote: post #5

cassianoleal wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course. Any time you try to run a non-ARM binary on an ARM CPU without some form of translation or emulation, it will fail. This is also true for any other CPU architecture. If you want to know about specific compatibility issues, I'm happy to try to help as I've been using an M1 Air as my daily driver for many months now.

Did they finally get Docker working on the M1 chips?

Docker has been working for months.