Strike Date Set for 60k Film and Television Workers
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#2Wow, 90% voted, 98% in favor of strike. Solidarity!
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#3This is set to be even bigger than the 2007 WGA strike, which was ~12k people for 100 days. WGA had some precedent-setting wins with that, hopefully the same will happen with IATSE.
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#4Probably worst time in recent history to stage such a strike. I can't even _see_ the "stage workers" except through fogged up glasses while wearing a face diaper. This would be a lot more effective if their corporate overlords were making a ton of money like before.
Re: Strike Date Set for 60k Film and Television Workers
#5Probably worst time in recent history to stage such a strike. I can't even _see_ the "stage workers" except through fogged up glasses while wearing a face diaper. This would be a lot more effective if their corporate overlords were making a ton of money like before.
Seems like a great time to stage a strike if the corporate overlords are already under some level of duress. Also, what does being able to see the stage workers have anything to do with it?
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#6Probably worst time in recent history to stage such a strike. I can't even _see_ the "stage workers" except through fogged up glasses while wearing a face diaper. This would be a lot more effective if their corporate overlords were making a ton of money like before.
Seems like a great time to stage a strike if the corporate overlords are already under some level of duress. Also, what does being able to see the stage workers have anything to do with it?
They could just be laid off under the present circumstances. If a tree falls in a forest and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
Edit, since HN is throttling my response to the bigman433 below: I absolutely agree with you. Much like music industry, to paraphrase Hunter S Thompson, movie industry is "a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs." It's just that now is not the best time to effect change there. Think of it from the standpoint of the owner: you have a venture which is barely making any money at the moment and is not projected to make a lot of it at any point in the next few years. And that venture is starting to cause you legal, PR, and labor problems on top of that. You'd get rid of it at the drop of a hat. Now, if you actually were making money hand over fist, and the flow of money suddenly stopped, that's a MUCH better leverage to make a deal. This presupposes, however, that they'd actually like to solve their problems, rather than just stay angry, which is how it often is. Problem solving is less profitable to the agitators than constant, simmering anger.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like a great time to stage a strike if the corporate overlords are already under some level of duress. Also, what does being able to see the stage workers have anything to do with it?
They could just be laid off under the present circumstances. If a tree falls in a forest and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? Edit, since HN is throttling my response to the bigman433 below: I absolutely agree with you. Much like music industry, to paraphrase Hunter S Thompson, movie industry is "a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good…
Doubtful. There's a notorious shortage of workers in every industry right now, the striking workers will be particularly hard to replace due to their timing, and their strike is probably going to be particularly effective because of that.
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#8This is set to be even bigger than the 2007 WGA strike, which was ~12k people for 100 days. WGA had some precedent-setting wins with that, hopefully the same will happen with IATSE.
Yeah, a lot of television shows really suffered due to it.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like a great time to stage a strike if the corporate overlords are already under some level of duress. Also, what does being able to see the stage workers have anything to do with it?
They could just be laid off under the present circumstances. If a tree falls in a forest and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? Edit, since HN is throttling my response to the bigman433 below: I absolutely agree with you. Much like music industry, to paraphrase Hunter S Thompson, movie industry is "a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good…
That would be suicide. Something like 90% of the workforce agreed on the strike. Imagine firing 60k people and having only a few thousand left. You'd sink immediately.
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#10I've just spent a bit over a year in the live entertainment industry, and feel like I might be able to provide some insight here. On the one hand, this feels like an own-goal because no one in live entertainment has been paid since the beginning of 2020. Though that started to change a little over this summer.
On the other hand, many of the people from the live entertainment industry found refuge in film and television. There has been a hollowing out of the industry where the senior folks have stuck around, but lots and lots of people who were early in their career have left and are not coming back. The senior folks can afford a few more weeks of no pay. However, if they cut off revenue to the film&tv world, they are setting up a 1-2 punch to the entertainment companies (1. COVID, 2. strike), and that puts them in a good negotiating position.