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Re: Show HN: Machine Learning for Google Sheets

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I have mix feelings. On one hand, this is pretty awesome in the sense more people should have access to different ML easier. But on the other hand, I’m guessing the people who can’t pipe a csv to pandas + scikit will probably neglect important steps like data processing and output interpretation like balanced accuracy vs accuracy.

Re: Show HN: Machine Learning for Google Sheets

#3

I have mix feelings. On one hand, this is pretty awesome in the sense more people should have access to different ML easier. But on the other hand, I’m guessing the people who can’t pipe a csv to pandas + scikit will probably neglect important steps like data processing and output interpretation like balanced accuracy vs accuracy.

I like to say "the dollars are in the data". Tools like these do open up ML to a wider audience but it does nothing for them to understand that nothing beats proper record keeping and data collection. Furthermore, it handicaps you in certain ways. For example, how are missing values handled?

Re: Show HN: Machine Learning for Google Sheets

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I have mix feelings. On one hand, this is pretty awesome in the sense more people should have access to different ML easier. But on the other hand, I’m guessing the people who can’t pipe a csv to pandas + scikit will probably neglect important steps like data processing and output interpretation like balanced accuracy vs accuracy.

I like to say "the dollars are in the data". Tools like these do open up ML to a wider audience but it does nothing for them to understand that nothing beats proper record keeping and data collection. Furthermore, it handicaps you in certain ways. For example, how are missing values handled?

Totally agree, getting actionable and confident results from ML is a really tough thing to do. Imputing data, feature processing, metric choices, and etc is almost an art form (though new AutoML libraries have made this much easier).

Re: Show HN: Machine Learning for Google Sheets

#5
I just want to say that I love this. I’m not your target audience, but I think the idea and execution are pretty damn neat and I hope you succeed.

I’d try to put some focus on helping users who aren’t ML savvy understand the different algorithms and hyperparameters, the choice can be confusing otherwise.

Re: Show HN: Machine Learning for Google Sheets

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I have mix feelings. On one hand, this is pretty awesome in the sense more people should have access to different ML easier. But on the other hand, I’m guessing the people who can’t pipe a csv to pandas + scikit will probably neglect important steps like data processing and output interpretation like balanced accuracy vs accuracy.

> I’m guessing the people who can’t pipe a csv to pandas + scikit

People who know how to do that neglect the important steps too. The hardest part about ML is finding practitioners who aren't false positives.

Re: Show HN: Machine Learning for Google Sheets

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post #6

I have mix feelings. On one hand, this is pretty awesome in the sense more people should have access to different ML easier. But on the other hand, I’m guessing the people who can’t pipe a csv to pandas + scikit will probably neglect important steps like data processing and output interpretation like balanced accuracy vs accuracy.

> I’m guessing the people who can’t pipe a csv to pandas + scikit People who know how to do that neglect the important steps too. The hardest part about ML is finding practitioners who aren't false positives.

I hear this a lot but I haven't seen too much of it in the real world. In my experience it's a competitive field to get into so even the junior people are pretty decent. They have to be.

Re: Show HN: Machine Learning for Google Sheets

#9
Very cool idea. I can't wait to play with this. I've sold similar "productized services" as a consultant. Most businesses benefit from churn, revenue/expense forecasting, and stack-rank models but not to the degree where paying in-house makes sense. I was typically brought in as part of the fund-raising process.

What is your business model?

Re: Show HN: Machine Learning for Google Sheets

#10
as a warning, I've heard that the big spreadsheet makers considered this and eventually passed on the idea. I believe the logic is that spreadsheet users don't understand ML, and if you want to do ML, you probably know how to export a spreadsheet.
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