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Reactive Clojure: A web language

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Re: Reactive Clojure: A web language

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Post by mjburgess »

Finally the problem which PHP solved more than two decades ago has been solved again. How do we include server-side code in client-side code?

Do we build the client-side on the sever, and render? Why no, that would be PHP.

Let's build the client-side in the browser, and rig a series of complex code-generating primitives disguised by the beauty of a language, to AJAX our way to a presumably good-enough solution.

I think its a serious question whether apps built with this are more performant, easier to use, (and so on) than the equivalent PHP-approach.

Re: Reactive Clojure: A web language

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

We did that, it was called PHP, and it turns out DSL are pretty limited outside of their sweat spot. Also they don't evolve as fast as libs and framework.

Case in point: PHP worked well, but framework like Rails and Django became very attractive because their offered more, and used languages that could be good outside of their niche.

And what did the PHP community to stay relevant ? They developed great frameworks, and improved the non web language capabilities.

Turns out the web moves fast, and coding a web app is more than web programming anyway.

Re: Reactive Clojure: A web language

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Post by InitialBP »

mjburgess wrote: post #4

Finally the problem which PHP solved more than two decades ago has been solved again. How do we include server-side code in client-side code? Do we build the client-side on the sever, and render? Why no, that would be PHP. Let's build the client-side in the browser, and rig a series of complex code-generating primitives disguised by the beauty of a language, to AJAX our way to a presumably good-enough solution. I thi…

Regardless of whether PHP solved this particular problem, it also caused a lot of its own due to numerous security issues and documentation that encouraged unsafe use of libraries, until recently.

Re: Reactive Clojure: A web language

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Post by Zelphyr »

mjburgess wrote: post #4

Finally the problem which PHP solved more than two decades ago has been solved again. How do we include server-side code in client-side code? Do we build the client-side on the sever, and render? Why no, that would be PHP. Let's build the client-side in the browser, and rig a series of complex code-generating primitives disguised by the beauty of a language, to AJAX our way to a presumably good-enough solution. I thi…

I really love Clojure--it's a joy to use but, you're right.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this project but it seems like abstractions on top of abstractions and has little to do with being a "web language". That was PHP, for better or for worse.

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