More on Google and Patents
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More on Google and Patents
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#2"I never said it wasn’t OK for “Google to try and buy the same patents to not be sued.” Apple, Google, Microsoft, Oracle — they’re all playing the game. If Google had won the Nortel patents, and used those patents to secure licensing agreements for other patents (from, say, Microsoft and Apple) — that’s how the patent game is played. What I’m complaining about isn’t Google playing the game, but rather their insistent whining about their competitors only after they lost the game."
Can't say I disagree.
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#3Google could have joined consortium to take the Novell patents off the table. But Google wanted those patents for itself to defend against other patents they already infringed upon.
This is extremely disingenuous. It is likely that Google would need to obtain defensive patents whether it believes it violates any patents at all.
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#4"I never said it wasn’t OK for “Google to try and buy the same patents to not be sued.” Apple, Google, Microsoft, Oracle — they’re all playing the game. If Google had won the Nortel patents, and used those patents to secure licensing agreements for other patents (from, say, Microsoft and Apple) — that’s how the patent game is played. What I’m complaining about isn’t Google playing the game, but rather their insistent…
Google isn't complaining about losing. It's complaining about the unfair way it believes the winners won.
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#5"I never said it wasn’t OK for “Google to try and buy the same patents to not be sued.” Apple, Google, Microsoft, Oracle — they’re all playing the game. If Google had won the Nortel patents, and used those patents to secure licensing agreements for other patents (from, say, Microsoft and Apple) — that’s how the patent game is played. What I’m complaining about isn’t Google playing the game, but rather their insistent…
Google isn't complaining about losing. It's complaining about the unfair way it believes the winners won.
How is it unfair?
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#6Doesn't the fact that everybody is jockeying to buy the IP of other companies to protect themselves from patent lawsuits suggest the system is broken?
One piece of patent reform that might be nice is that you can't acquire IP, unless you have a majority of the people who created the IP under full-time employment (or something to that effect).
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#7"I never said it wasn’t OK for “Google to try and buy the same patents to not be sued.” Apple, Google, Microsoft, Oracle — they’re all playing the game. If Google had won the Nortel patents, and used those patents to secure licensing agreements for other patents (from, say, Microsoft and Apple) — that’s how the patent game is played. What I’m complaining about isn’t Google playing the game, but rather their insistent…
Google isn't complaining about losing. It's complaining about the unfair way it believes the winners won.
Unfair? Through legitimately bidding higher than 3.14 billion dollars?
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#8The convolutions continue.
"What I’m complaining about isn’t Google playing the game, but rather their insistent whining about their competitors only after they lost the game."
It's easy to redefine the game as whatever suits your outcome. And it's perfectly reasonable to complain about an unfair game that you're losing because it's unfair.
And anyway, by this logic, you could simply call the PR battle 'part of the game' and say Google is just playing on the rising anti-patent sentiment in the industry.
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#9Google seems to feel entitled to copy whatever it wants. Android copies the UI from the iPhone. Places copied data from Yelp. Google+ copies from Facebook. Their coupon thing is a clone of Groupon. And yet it’s Google that acts as though it has been offended when these competitors fight back.
The one sited source is extremely shallow, and the rest is both not sourced and laughable. Gruber is making quite the leap after his hand waving and backpedaling.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google isn't complaining about losing. It's complaining about the unfair way it believes the winners won.
Unfair? Through legitimately bidding higher than 3.14 billion dollars?
They’re doing this by banding together to acquire Novell’s old patents (the “CPTN” group including Microsoft and Apple) and Nortel’s old patents (the “Rockstar” group including Microsoft and Apple), to make sure Google didn’t get them; seeking $15 licensing fees for every Android device; attempting to make it more expensive for phone manufacturers to license Android...
From the original Google blog post.