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'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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Re: 'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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I always assumed GWB just wanted to invade Iraq and used whatever he could get his hands on as an excuse. There still would "be" WMDs in Iraq even regardless of 9/11.

He may well have believed the whispers in his ear from the war hawks. There was a systematic process of presenting him with distorted information.

Re: 'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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I always assumed GWB just wanted to invade Iraq and used whatever he could get his hands on as an excuse. There still would "be" WMDs in Iraq even regardless of 9/11.

I wish ignorant commenters like yourself would do even 5 minutes research before commenting.

- Iraq made and used chemical weapons in both the Iraq-Iran war and against Kurds. ie. WMD. There's plenty of fotos online.

- the Iraqi army was #4 in the world before the first US-Iraq war, with SH's stated goal of taking over the entire Middle East ("becoming the next Suleiman.")

- KSA and Kuwait paid the US to defend them. KSA also contributed $2 billion to the Clinton Foundation, stopping only when Hillary "retired." That makes the Clintons some of the most corrupt politicians in world history, along with the Biden family.)

Re: 'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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A news story from September 2002:

> CBS News has learned that barely five hours after American Airlines Flight 77 plowed into the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was telling his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq — even though there was no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks.

* https://www.cbsnews.com/news/plans-for-iraq-attack-began-on-...

Re: 'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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post #2

I always assumed GWB just wanted to invade Iraq and used whatever he could get his hands on as an excuse. There still would "be" WMDs in Iraq even regardless of 9/11.

He may well have believed the whispers in his ear from the war hawks. There was a systematic process of presenting him with distorted information.

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Re: 'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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A statistic from the article:

"The Watson Institute at Brown University calculates that 184,382 to 207,156 Iraqi civilians were directly killed in war-related violence between the start of the American invasion in March 2003 through October 2019. But the researchers suggest the real figure may well be several times higher."

Re: 'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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post #2

I always assumed GWB just wanted to invade Iraq and used whatever he could get his hands on as an excuse. There still would "be" WMDs in Iraq even regardless of 9/11.

Probably, but who would have listened to him? He was well on his way to being a 1 term president who did nothing...

Re: 'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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A statistic from the article: "The Watson Institute at Brown University calculates that 184,382 to 207,156 Iraqi civilians were directly killed in war-related violence between the start of the American invasion in March 2003 through October 2019. But the researchers suggest the real figure may well be several times higher."

These numbers are really important, especially on a day like today. It's strange how much of a spectacle [1] 9/11 was, almost made for TV. Our 3000 victims of terror are thus acknowledged, depicted, and disseminated throughout the world. As a result, they're remembered in some sense too.

But the hundreds of thousands more whom we maim, torture, and kill across the globe are given no such status -- they're barely even admitted to exist! Simple efforts to just count these people etch them into the documentary record, and allow no one to say they couldn't have known. In this way they serve a similar purpose to Holocaust studies: by tallying the victims you make it harder to forget.

Re: 'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

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I always assumed GWB just wanted to invade Iraq and used whatever he could get his hands on as an excuse. There still would "be" WMDs in Iraq even regardless of 9/11.

He may well have believed the whispers in his ear from the war hawks. There was a systematic process of presenting him with distorted information.

Agreed. I believe (still) that GWB jr is and was a good person at heart.
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