Hustle culture is not toxic
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Hustle culture is not toxic
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#2> I derive happiness from working towards an enormous goal.
Why an “enormous” goal? Does that come from a place of hubris. Do you push other people towards your enormous goal even at the cost of relationships and health?
And how much does you “enormous” goal actually benefit society?
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#3There's a difference between "hustle" and "hustle culture". Most reasonable people don't hate people who work hard. That's their prerogative.
"Hustle culture", or the expectation that anything less than "hustling" is invalid or invaluable is what people hate. They don't hate people who decide that they want to devote their spare time to a new startup, personal project, or whatever, just the (rather common) attitude and culture of people who subscribe that lifestyle.
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#4- Working on your own project/company is tremendously different from working at someone else's stupid company that is obviously doomed to fail but you have a mortgage and kids so you need to work there for at least a year before switching jobs in order to not have your resume look weird
- Taking time off for vacation and getting adequate sleep are literally the things hustle culture rails against, since normies do that and to "succeed" you have to not do those
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#5Yes it is toxic. It's all about striking it rich, not necessarily making people's lives meaningfully better.
It also in puts work on a pedestal when work is just a small component of a life well lived.
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#6I believe the author has missed the point here. The conversation is not that “working hard is a bad thing”. “Hustle culture” is about making character judgements based on how many “hustles” one has going on at any given time. That is, if you aren’t killing yourself trying, then you aren’t trying. This is obviously awful and not a culture I want to live in. I’m happy that the author is having fun with their business, and that they’re able to devote a lot of energy to it. But someone who makes other choices isn’t lesser. Hustling isn’t righteous, it’s just a thing you can do if you want (and are able).
Edit: worth stating that “hustling” is almost never necessary. It can be a ploy to convince workers to save the venture money by doing extra work. It can be a tactic of control, or superiority. One thing is certain: it’s gross.
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#7>What we need, instead, is a literature of self-awareness.
>Anyways, back to work.
I'm a bit confused; isn't this the exact kind of preachy post that the author is deriding here? Maybe a big part of what makes posts irritating is the preachy influencer attitude rather than the actual subject matter.
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#8> I derive happiness from working towards an enormous goal. Why an “enormous” goal? Does that come from a place of hubris. Do you push other people towards your enormous goal even at the cost of relationships and health? And how much does you “enormous” goal actually benefit society?
In this case, it appears to be…another website analytics tool.
Not sure how that is “enormous”.
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#9> I derive happiness from working towards an enormous goal. Why an “enormous” goal? Does that come from a place of hubris. Do you push other people towards your enormous goal even at the cost of relationships and health? And how much does you “enormous” goal actually benefit society?
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#10The assumption that because it worked for the author means it will work for everyone else is flawed. It doesn't work for everyone. Hard work is not the only criteria needed for success. That is exactly why it can be toxic.
Glad it worked for the author, but if the story had gone the other way, and they ended up broke and burned out yet needing to go get a job right away.... they would be telling quite a different tale.