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The Threat from the Illiberal Left

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Re: The Threat from the Illiberal Left

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Neither the left or the right tries to be liberal as Milton intended, they both are not and unfortunately real classical liberals are long gone in politics. Milton and Hayek warned us about the government power grab that we’re seeing more and more today around the world.

Re: The Threat from the Illiberal Left

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I think the threat from articles dressed up as smart from The Economist is bigger. Especially since they still do the incredibly unaccountable no writer byline thing. Only cowards and people who want to hide behind undeserved institutional reputation do this.

Re: The Threat from the Illiberal Left

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The problem with identity politics is that no progress is made. You are never going to convince another identity that yours should get special treatment. Only when a group demands equal rights do we make progress, because there is never any good arguments why one group shouldn't have the same rights as others. Equality remains self evident.

Re: The Threat from the Illiberal Left

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>The attack from the left is harder to grasp, partly because in America “liberal” has come to include an illiberal left.

I had been one of the illiberal progressive in the past. I feel the illiberalness comes from a sense of danger. It had felt like the world was turning upside down, and I was morally obligated to fight for happiness and safety. A very Hobbesian "a war of all against all" feeling.

I got out of the hole only when I realized that sustainable happiness can be attained without sacrificing others. It was really a big, life changing recognition.

Re: The Threat from the Illiberal Left

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Neither the left or the right tries to be liberal as Milton intended, they both are not and unfortunately real classical liberals are long gone in politics. Milton and Hayek warned us about the government power grab that we’re seeing more and more today around the world.

> government power grab

Strange. I don't recall them warning about the twisted newspeak of "public/private partnership" or the capitalist capture of government meant by the phrase.

Re: The Threat from the Illiberal Left

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The fundamental problem of Liberalism is that it thinks the world is far more stateless than it actually is. I guess the idea was knocking down feudalism would make everything liquid and fast converging? Orthodox economics = equilibrium theory only bakes in the problem by definition.

We now know empiricly that this stuff is not true. This pulls out the rug from under so many of Liberalism's precepts, and yet Liberalism hasn't adjusted.

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