Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
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Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#2It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself.
On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#3It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself. On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
What is your experience about Linux on Macs in general?
Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#4It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself. On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
At least for Apple MacBooks, there is nothing in the Windows world that comes even close to them in terms of pure hardware capability.
The Linux software-side support is... a bit of a mess though.
Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#5It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself. On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
I think this might be useful for those who already are into the Mac ecosystem, so they'd pay for one anyway. I personally wouldn't touch one with a 100 meters pole, not even for free, especially after the recent developments about privacy and security related to Apple.
Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#6It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself. On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
It's not about making sense economically it's just that there are not many ARM platforms out there, so if you want a native ARM dev box, Apple is pretty much the only choice.
Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#7It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself. On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
What is your experience about Linux on Macs in general?
I have an old MacBook Air running Ubuntu Linux, and that is my only experience.
Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#8It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself. On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
If you just want a system in the Mac Mini (or MacBook) style form factor, it's probably not worth it. There are plenty of x86 based alternatives and even some low cost ARM solutions.
But, if your requirement is for a "high performance" ARM based machine, suddenly the M1 macs become very appealing.
Many of the other solutions are ARM dev boards that have a tenth of the performance and very limited RAM. There are some half decent Snapdragon based laptops, but that only gets you about 50% of the way to M1 performance.
Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#9It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself. On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
Maybe not for new hardware, but in the future, mac users get the new M7 or whatever, and want to run a Linux desktop or server on their old hardware. And if this project gets stable enough, I would want to buy an old ARM mac to use as a linux machine.
Re: Bare metal Apple M1 Debian at 4K 60
#10It always impresses the hell out of me when I see side projects like this project that I couldn’t do myself. On the economic/$$ perspective: the Linux in M1 projects are probably targeted at Mac Minis and given that when you pay for a Mac Mini you are paying for hardware and Apple software. Does this make sense economically, comparing other bare bone systems with a Mac Mini style form factor?
What is your experience about Linux on Macs in general?
Not the OP, anyway I used Debian on my old Mac Mini (first model, PPC CPU) about 2007 or so as media player connected to a projector, all mounted on a wooden shelf over a door; very compact and fit nicely in the living room. I used a media player roughly similar to Kodi (can't remember the name atm) that loaded just after boot without requiring login, set up to connect automatically to my NFS NAS and present all media as browseable directories; I later also added a USB TV dongle for DVB-T TV, so it was practical enough to be used by the girlfriend who isn't much into computers. A wireless IR keyboard with sort of a trackball (actually a giant equivalent of the Thinkpad red mouse "thing") completed it. It lasted a few years though, as pretty soon I discovered that a Raspberry PI that cost about 1/25 could do almost the same things, so I gave the Mini to a relative of mine who is an architect, and never heard that awful loud "boonnnnng" sound again. I had to fiddle a bit with startup scripts, kernel recompiles etc. to bring it to useable level, today it would be probably a plain install, but was helpful and taught me a couple things.
As for MacOS, I tried it, it was like a large polished, beautiful, golden cage. It has every possible comfort, but it was still a cage, and it lasted a few hours before I installed Debian over it.