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Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

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Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

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> Privacy considerations

Rendered data is not exposed to / extractable by the page in this proposal, so no tainting is required. We do expect this would require extensions to Fetch (a new destination type), Content Security Policy (a new policy directive), and likely a few others.

I do buy 3d model data occasionally (hobby, not for professional uses). I think most stores obfustcate the data somehow although I never took a look at it in detail. If you wanted, you probably could easily extract the model from the preview.

I still think this is a very bad proposal. Why compare something with an image and then disallow it to be treated like other ressources? This is typically bad corporate influence on the web.

I think we should go the other way. Remove DRM components from browsers again. Netflix not available anymore? They will either adapt or not be available. Their loss would probably be more significant.

Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

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> Privacy considerations Rendered data is not exposed to / extractable by the page in this proposal, so no tainting is required. We do expect this would require extensions to Fetch (a new destination type), Content Security Policy (a new policy directive), and likely a few others. I do buy 3d model data occasionally (hobby, not for professional uses). I think most stores obfustcate the data somehow although I never t…

>I still think this is a very bad proposal. Why compare something with an image and then disallow it to be treated like other ressources? This is typically bad corporate influence on the web.

Because webgl fingerprinting. Also, I'm not sure why you think not being able to extract the data using javascript is "bad corporate influence on the web" or" DRM". you can still do whatever you want. The models are freely available for you just not the page.

Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

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Interesting they show support for USD(Z) in the example. USD will be the standard for most VFX houses and make tooling for various web based systems so much easier.

We have a 3D model format for the web in glTF. This is Apple having Not Invented Here Syndrome again. USD was developed at Pixar, of which Steve Jobs was the founding investor. Apple is the only one who wants USDZ on the Web. Everyone else is already using glTF.

Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

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Interesting they show support for USD(Z) in the example. USD will be the standard for most VFX houses and make tooling for various web based systems so much easier.

Where is the format specification?

https://graphics.pixar.com/usd/docs/

The closest thing I can find there is the glossary and the C++ doxygen api docs.

Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

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> Privacy considerations Rendered data is not exposed to / extractable by the page in this proposal, so no tainting is required. We do expect this would require extensions to Fetch (a new destination type), Content Security Policy (a new policy directive), and likely a few others. I do buy 3d model data occasionally (hobby, not for professional uses). I think most stores obfustcate the data somehow although I never t…

My understanding is basically that DRM is the technology that permits the existence of Netflix and similar. Perhaps I just lack a strength of principle, but I don't see why you'd remove one of the most-enjoyed aspects of the internet for the sake of uh... some kind of privacy-adjacent something?
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