Portal Windows for Electron

stnmtn wrote: post #4

0xDEEPFAC wrote: post #2

Why not just write a native application?

Here's a few very valid reasons imo - Easy cross platform support - Singular language/framework (typescript/react) for everything you're doing - Can share a lot of components/logic with mobile apps if you use React Native

- you want to make sure that people respect the importance of your app by not running it along with everything else because it needs 10x the amount of resources a native app would

Re: Portal Windows for Electron

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Post by Veuxdo » Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 5:20 PM UTC

egypturnash wrote: post #6

stnmtn wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a few very valid reasons imo - Easy cross platform support - Singular language/framework (typescript/react) for everything you're doing - Can share a lot of components/logic with mobile apps if you use React Native

- you want to make sure that people respect the importance of your app by not running it along with everything else because it needs 10x the amount of resources a native app would

It's a consideration.

Re: Portal Windows for Electron

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Post by afavour » Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

0xDEEPFAC wrote: post #2

Why not just write a native application?

Because it's cheaper, quicker and the vast majority of users are fine with it.

I'm not excusing it, I curse Slack every day I have to use their Electron app (though mostly just use it in a browser tab now) but we have this exact same conversation every time anything about Electron is posted on HN. None of the parameters for making the choice have changed since the last time we did.

Re: Portal Windows for Electron

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Post by a4isms » Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

stnmtn wrote: post #4

0xDEEPFAC wrote: post #2

Why not just write a native application?

Here's a few very valid reasons imo - Easy cross platform support - Singular language/framework (typescript/react) for everything you're doing - Can share a lot of components/logic with mobile apps if you use React Native

The nice thing about this question for old-timers is that we can recycle the answers we already heard about using Java for cross-platform desktop development from 20+ years ago. Or the rationale for using a cross-platform toolkit with C++ from 30+ years ago.

You get substandard desktop applications that tend to frustrate people who are deeply immersed in any one ecosystem and expect native applications to have deep integration with each platform and comply with each platform’s design sensibilities.

But history shows that applications written against cross-platform toolkits have done just fine, as have applications that completely embraced “going native” on particular platforms.

I’m left with the thought that either strategy works if you go “all in,” the mistakes come from:

1. Going cross-platform but then doing ridiculous back-flips to try to make the app feel really, really native. Just take what the platform gives you, and accept that you’re giving people a web-like experience that happens to have some native affordances. Learn to live with the few complaints from retro-grouches.

Or, 2. Going native, but skimping on deep integration and fully embracing the look and feel of each platform. This is one of those “penny-wise, pound-foolish’ strategies: You ship faster, but you lose the big benefits of a cross-platform tool, and you don’t satisfy the users that appreciate what a native app offers in look, feel, and integration.

Re: Portal Windows for Electron

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 5:29 PM UTC

egypturnash wrote: post #6

stnmtn wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a few very valid reasons imo - Easy cross platform support - Singular language/framework (typescript/react) for everything you're doing - Can share a lot of components/logic with mobile apps if you use React Native

- you want to make sure that people respect the importance of your app by not running it along with everything else because it needs 10x the amount of resources a native app would

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