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Intel Brings Chiplets to Data Center CPUs

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Re: Intel Brings Chiplets to Data Center CPUs

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I thought AMD had already brought chiplets to data center CPUs a long time ago [1], [2] and that is why they are leading currently, now that they have multiple generations of chiplet data center CPUs out? [3]

[1] https://www.wired.com/story/keep-pace-moores-law-chipmakers-...

[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-epyc-processor-models-...

[3] https://www.wired.com/story/keep-pace-moores-law-chipmakers-...

Re: Intel Brings Chiplets to Data Center CPUs

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Intel is in the cusp of getting taking out. Architectures and process technologies are both multiple generations behind. AMD has 10x its server share. If the trend sustains for one more generation the majority of the market will go to AMD.

10x? Where did you find those numbers.

Re: Intel Brings Chiplets to Data Center CPUs

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Intel is in the cusp of getting taking out. Architectures and process technologies are both multiple generations behind. AMD has 10x its server share. If the trend sustains for one more generation the majority of the market will go to AMD.

Going by this... https://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

Intel still has 90%+ of the server market. It only just started moving over to AMD. They did gain a lot of ground over Intel in the desktop market though.

Re: Intel Brings Chiplets to Data Center CPUs

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Intel is in the cusp of getting taking out. Architectures and process technologies are both multiple generations behind. AMD has 10x its server share. If the trend sustains for one more generation the majority of the market will go to AMD.

I'll have a glass of whatever you're having.

Intel's first proper competitor to Zen is coming out soon, and from what I've seen so far it looks like a monster. Couple this with them launching GPU's into the most demand-heavy market we might ever see, they don't have to do much to have a good few years.

Also, every measure I've ever seen has AMD still at least a doubling away from parity with Intel, so I find your figure very hard to believe.

Re: Intel Brings Chiplets to Data Center CPUs

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I wonder if they'll call it "glued-together". https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-slide-criticizes-amd-for-using... The 4 die SoC does look an awful lot like 1st gen EPYC.

It's especially ironic because Intel had also previously "glued together" chiplets for the C2Qs and their equivalent Xeons (e.g. X3200 series).

> The 2 × 2 "quad-core" (dual-die dual-core[17]) comprised two separate dual-core die next to each other in one CPU package.

Re: Intel Brings Chiplets to Data Center CPUs

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I thought AMD had already brought chiplets to data center CPUs a long time ago [1], [2] and that is why they are leading currently, now that they have multiple generations of chiplet data center CPUs out? [3] [1] https://www.wired.com/story/keep-pace-moores-law-chipmakers-... [2] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-epyc-processor-models-... [3] https://www.wired.com/story/keep-pace-moores-law-chipmakers-...

You are right AMD has done that. I don't know if it is the reason they are leading -- they have better process technology and in many ways better core design as well.

But this story is about Intel. Though it depends on how you define "chiplet". In this article it looks like 4 identical chips wired on a package each with their own IO and memory controllers. That's very different from from AMD's core chips wired to an IO chip, and is nothing new for Intel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-chip_module

It's the expected response from Intel when they are unable to compete on throughput per socket with a single chip (they went to DCMs during the period of Opteron dominance too). I don't know what the story is really -- they said the latency was too high to do this before but they've already done something effectively the same (and multi socket SMP systems have even higher chip to chip latency again, so clearly it can be done). I guess they just improved the on package interconnect performance a bit, but almost certainly they would have done a multi chip to compete with AMD even if they were not able to improve that latency.

Re: Intel Brings Chiplets to Data Center CPUs

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I thought AMD had already brought chiplets to data center CPUs a long time ago [1], [2] and that is why they are leading currently, now that they have multiple generations of chiplet data center CPUs out? [3] [1] https://www.wired.com/story/keep-pace-moores-law-chipmakers-... [2] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-epyc-processor-models-... [3] https://www.wired.com/story/keep-pace-moores-law-chipmakers-...

Yes. The article (second paragraph) clearly states that this is a first for Intel, not for Data Centers.

Given that this is a trade-ish publication, I think writers/editors will more or less assume their audience understands the smackdown that AMD has been laying on Intel and AMD's chiplet strategy.

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