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“We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

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Re: “We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

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Oh my god the unhinged blind frothing rage in those comments is scary, and many upvoted. I hardly go on that site I didn't realize it is a haven for hateful extremists.

Yep. I have loved Ars for years. But its community has taken a dark turn.

Re: “We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

#4

Oh my god the unhinged blind frothing rage in those comments is scary, and many upvoted. I hardly go on that site I didn't realize it is a haven for hateful extremists.

Yep. I have loved Ars for years. But its community has taken a dark turn.

I can't blame them. They are raging against irresponsible republican government (and gullible people).

Re: “We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

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Oh my god the unhinged blind frothing rage in those comments is scary, and many upvoted. I hardly go on that site I didn't realize it is a haven for hateful extremists.

I only looked at the 20 or so comments at the top and I did not find what you describe. The reply by DaveSimmons is a low point but it's not even close to unhinged blind frothing rage.

Re: “We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

#6

Oh my god the unhinged blind frothing rage in those comments is scary, and many upvoted. I hardly go on that site I didn't realize it is a haven for hateful extremists.

Blimey you're not wrong. I reckon you can probably judge the quality of a comment section by the number and strength of the adjectives in it: a reasonable comments section would call somebody foolish, an unreasonable one would say that they're a disgusting extremist making unfathomably selfish and reckless choices.

A bit ironic one of them was talking about "blood for the blood god" when that whole comment section is basically an angry hymn to Khorne!

Re: “We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

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UK here.

We have a good coverage of vaccinations, most of the vulnerable are doubly vaccinated. However we are going to have a bad winter.

We have just under three times the number of ICU beds as Alabama (3.9 per 100k[1] vs the UK's 7.5 per 100k[2]) but we have a a decent number of those bed already occupied by covid patients.

The vaccine isn't a magic thing that'll stop hospitals filling up. Yes, it reduces the fatality by 1/4 and length of stay of the average patient. but it won't help if all your population gets ill at the same time.

The UK will almost certainly have a "fourth" wave in winter. We will have to cancel emergency care.

[1]https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2020/05/18/icu-be... [2]https://annalsofintensivecare.springeropen.com/articles/10.1...

note, these numbers are inaccurate as when there is a crisis like this the number of beds increases.

Re: “We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

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Given that rationing care is inevitable, it's time to start prioritizing vaccinated individuals, those unable to get vaccinated, and non-COVID patients when doing triage and allocating ICU beds.

If individuals refuse to get vaccinated, they are increasing the chances that if I get into a car accident I don't get care.

This is literally the definition of a negative externality, and it's very easy to internalize this externality: triage prioritization.

My intent is not to punish these individuals or to make this a moral issue / blame them. It is simply to recognize the cost their choices have on others and to make them bear the cost of their actions we opposed to it being thrust on others.

Re: “We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

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Oh my god the unhinged blind frothing rage in those comments is scary, and many upvoted. I hardly go on that site I didn't realize it is a haven for hateful extremists.

Ars is barely better than Reddit.

Re: “We are set on a path that looks disastrous”: Alabama hospitals near collapse

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Oh my god the unhinged blind frothing rage in those comments is scary, and many upvoted. I hardly go on that site I didn't realize it is a haven for hateful extremists.

I only looked at the 20 or so comments at the top and I did not find what you describe. The reply by DaveSimmons is a low point but it's not even close to unhinged blind frothing rage.

> Send the national guard door to door with medics to force vaccinations on the antivax cretins in the hot zones.

> Oh wait, the Republican governors are busy outlawing mask mandates.

> Keep piling up the bodies on the altar of Trump then I guess. More blood for the blood god!

Yeesh.

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