FTC requests Facebook to sell WhatsApp and Instagram

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Post by pouwerkerk » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 3:57 PM UTC

FTC requests Facebook to sell WhatsApp and Instagram
independent.co.uk

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Post by intricatedetail » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 4:39 PM UTC

That's a right thing to do. It should follow Apple to be required to sell App Store, iOS and macOS. Google should be required to sell Ad Sense, YouTube and gmail and so on. This concentration of power is bad for everyone except shareholders.

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Post by thedudeabides5 » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 5:00 PM UTC

But then how will we build metaverse?

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Post by ChrisArchitect » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 5:10 PM UTC

[dupe]

discussion brewing over here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28235555

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Post by mandeepj » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 5:26 PM UTC

intricatedetail wrote: post #2

That's a right thing to do. It should follow Apple to be required to sell App Store, iOS and macOS. Google should be required to sell Ad Sense, YouTube and gmail and so on. This concentration of power is bad for everyone except shareholders.

> Apple to be required to sell App Store, iOS and macOS

Not going to happen. Do you want them to build only hardware?

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Post by FractalHQ » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 6:21 PM UTC

mandeepj wrote: post #5

intricatedetail wrote: post #2

That's a right thing to do. It should follow Apple to be required to sell App Store, iOS and macOS. Google should be required to sell Ad Sense, YouTube and gmail and so on. This concentration of power is bad for everyone except shareholders.

> Apple to be required to sell App Store, iOS and macOS Not going to happen. Do you want them to build only hardware?

Yea, I agree with the Google bit but this part made me think GP is being sarcastic…. Those 3 elements are part of the same Ecosystem and in a way, the same product.

Amazon and Microsoft own WAY more tangentially related companies than Apple, and are constantly gobbling up more and more.

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Post by summm » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 7:02 PM UTC

mandeepj wrote: post #5

intricatedetail wrote: post #2

That's a right thing to do. It should follow Apple to be required to sell App Store, iOS and macOS. Google should be required to sell Ad Sense, YouTube and gmail and so on. This concentration of power is bad for everyone except shareholders.

> Apple to be required to sell App Store, iOS and macOS Not going to happen. Do you want them to build only hardware?

Yes. Why not? They should make hardware and publish the specs. Of course. That is very unlikely due to the power they already have.

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Post by xxpor » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 8:05 PM UTC

summm wrote: post #7

mandeepj wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple to be required to sell App Store, iOS and macOS Not going to happen. Do you want them to build only hardware?

Yes. Why not? They should make hardware and publish the specs. Of course. That is very unlikely due to the power they already have.

This only makes sense if you completely misunderstand the value of Apple as a company. You're asking for the death of Apple and it's entire ecosystem, not for an anti-trust solution.

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Post by wizzwizz4 » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 9:04 PM UTC

xxpor wrote: post #8

summm wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Why not? They should make hardware and publish the specs. Of course. That is very unlikely due to the power they already have.

This only makes sense if you completely misunderstand the value of Apple as a company. You're asking for the death of Apple and it's entire ecosystem, not for an anti-trust solution.

There's no reason iOS needs to be the only game in town. Why can't Apple Computers and Apple Operating Systems be different companies?

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Post by tekknik » Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 11:27 PM UTC

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #9

xxpor wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This only makes sense if you completely misunderstand the value of Apple as a company. You're asking for the death of Apple and it's entire ecosystem, not for an anti-trust solution.

There's no reason iOS needs to be the only game in town. Why can't Apple Computers and Apple Operating Systems be different companies?

As the person you’re replying to said, this only makes sense if you don’t understand what Apple is providing. They are selling an experience, not hardware. Innovation on one or the other in this hypothetical of two Apples means it’s available to all other market participants which means they’re paying for others research.

Then writing software becomes harder as you have to support everything under the sun and have difficulty deprecating things like MS does with windows. You have to check for individual hardware instead of writing for a platform. This argument is basically “what is the value of a platform?”