Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones
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Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones
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Re: Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones
#2Disappointing number of signatures, 471 so far (2132 GMT)
I wonder how the Taliban would love to use this type of technology.
Re: Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones
#3Don't just sign this.
Call or email your representatives and ask them to support the Open App Markets Act and the Digital Fair Repair Act.
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representati...
https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm
edit: Wow, two popular Apple stories removed from the HN front page today. How many more go down like this?
Re: Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones
#4This petition, or whatever it is supposed to be, completely mis-characterizes the problem entirely. It isn't that Apple can scan photos, it's that Apple can install any software of their choosing at any time, whether they choose to tell you or not. Therefore, there is no expectation of privacy on such closed source proprietary platforms.
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#5Once Apple releases this 'feature', a law would eventually be passed to force Google to add the same to Android.
Re: Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones
#6Once Apple releases this 'feature', a law would eventually be passed to force Google to add the same to Android.
Oh don't worry, Google is way ahead of Apple when it comes to scanning users' data on devices. I would be surprised if Google weren't doing this but remotely (vs. on-device).
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#7> Under pressure from U.S. law enforcement, Apple has put a backdoor into their encryption system.
I'm not on board with what Apple's doing here, but is there any evidence to suggest this statement? From what I know, this is at best misleading and at worst downright false. For example, the scanning is done on user devices so that image data remains encrypted from the time it leaves a users' phone to the time it is retrieved by a user (from any client).
Re: Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones
#8> Under pressure from U.S. law enforcement, Apple has put a backdoor into their encryption system. I'm not on board with what Apple's doing here, but is there any evidence to suggest this statement? From what I know, this is at best misleading and at worst downright false. For example, the scanning is done on user devices so that image data remains encrypted from the time it leaves a users' phone to the time it is re…
Exactly right, from what you know, which is limited to the point of useless on a proprietary, closed source system. It's almost guaranteed to be backdoored being as such.
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#9It can be more transparent to scan on users devices, which are in the possession of the public, than it can be to scan through user dat in the cloud, which is hosed in private and controlled "black box" data centers. This can be a step forward for user privacy and auditability, if Apple plays it that way.
Re: Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones
#10> Under pressure from U.S. law enforcement, Apple has put a backdoor into their encryption system. I'm not on board with what Apple's doing here, but is there any evidence to suggest this statement? From what I know, this is at best misleading and at worst downright false. For example, the scanning is done on user devices so that image data remains encrypted from the time it leaves a users' phone to the time it is re…
Like, what sort of evidence do you want exactly?
Apple can search for arbitrary information on user’s property. If you can search ciphertext, it’s not end to end encrypted anymore. End to end means no knowledge of plaintext should be discernible (sometimes even metadata).
Further, the dataset is set by them, is opaque and can be anything.
That’s obviously a back door in encryption (for government).