Canada's awful new proposals on “harmful” content
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Canada's awful new proposals on “harmful” content
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#2I expect Canada to become a police state (its already on the way) and the brain drain to accelerate.
Bill C-10 and C-36 are horrific China emulating policies, loose definition of "hate speech", bypassing courts in favour of human rights tribunals with 100% conviction rates and no requirement of evidence, preventative enforcement by police.
With C-36, even saying something truthful, if causes perceived harm is a punishable offence.
People with money and skills will continue to move south.
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#3I expect Canada to become a police state (its already on the way) and the brain drain to accelerate. Bill C-10 and C-36 are horrific China emulating policies, loose definition of "hate speech", bypassing courts in favour of human rights tribunals with 100% conviction rates and no requirement of evidence, preventative enforcement by police. With C-36, even saying something truthful, if causes perceived harm is a punis…
Am Canadian. No offense to my southern neighbours, but if it ever comes time to move because of this, my direction won't be south.
I'll probably play twister and hope the direction it lands is a good one.
North American trends have not been great lately in general.
Maybe I'll finally get that European passport I've been putting off.
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#4I expect Canada to become a police state (its already on the way) and the brain drain to accelerate. Bill C-10 and C-36 are horrific China emulating policies, loose definition of "hate speech", bypassing courts in favour of human rights tribunals with 100% conviction rates and no requirement of evidence, preventative enforcement by police. With C-36, even saying something truthful, if causes perceived harm is a punis…
Am Canadian. No offense to my southern neighbours, but if it ever comes time to move because of this, my direction won't be south. I'll probably play twister and hope the direction it lands is a good one. North American trends have not been great lately in general. Maybe I'll finally get that European passport I've been putting off.
Same. Am Canadian, already south. This is not the place.
I'm looking at Northern Europe (good privacy laws) or Singapore (the rules are draconian, but very clear).
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#5I expect Canada to become a police state (its already on the way) and the brain drain to accelerate. Bill C-10 and C-36 are horrific China emulating policies, loose definition of "hate speech", bypassing courts in favour of human rights tribunals with 100% conviction rates and no requirement of evidence, preventative enforcement by police. With C-36, even saying something truthful, if causes perceived harm is a punis…
An elephant in the room is worth noting: democracies were built to avoid dystopias, yet there are growing trends of "it is better to leave" in long established democracies - "Contact your representative then" increasingly seems to no longer be an established, working idea.
Several factors may accompany this phenomenon: polarization; perceived failures in education¹; sometimes anti-centrism in the government; political (the purpose of the party) and societal (the affiliation of the citizen with peers) crisis of identity...
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¹and Canada is the Country which promotes the relevant OECD studies
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#6> This discrimination is sticky, because SESTA caused the shuttering of forums where sex workers advocated for their rights. The more marginalised the speaker, the worst it is – which is why the most heavily impacted group is trans women of colour.
This can't be understated. Who are these bills benefiting at the end of the day? Because the most marginalized people in my life — and those who are most often the targets of hate speech — are being pushed even further to the margins by legislation like this.
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#7> This discrimination is sticky, because SESTA caused the shuttering of forums where sex workers advocated for their rights. The more marginalised the speaker, the worst it is – which is why the most heavily impacted group is trans women of colour. This can't be understated. Who are these bills benefiting at the end of the day? Because the most marginalized people in my life — and those who are most often the targets…
"Who are these bills benefiting at the end of the day?"
Politically active people who want to feel good about themselves?
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#8I expect Canada to become a police state (its already on the way) and the brain drain to accelerate. Bill C-10 and C-36 are horrific China emulating policies, loose definition of "hate speech", bypassing courts in favour of human rights tribunals with 100% conviction rates and no requirement of evidence, preventative enforcement by police. With C-36, even saying something truthful, if causes perceived harm is a punis…
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#9I expect Canada to become a police state (its already on the way) and the brain drain to accelerate. Bill C-10 and C-36 are horrific China emulating policies, loose definition of "hate speech", bypassing courts in favour of human rights tribunals with 100% conviction rates and no requirement of evidence, preventative enforcement by police. With C-36, even saying something truthful, if causes perceived harm is a punis…
An elephant in the room is worth noting: democracies were built to avoid dystopias, yet there are growing trends of "it is better to leave" in long established democracies - "Contact your representative then" increasingly seems to no longer be an established, working idea. Several factors may accompany this phenomenon: polarization; perceived failures in education¹; sometimes anti-centrism in the government; politica…
The path of least resistance in 2021 is different from that of 1951.
It is much cheaper now to move to another country and you can stay in frequent online contact with your kin. Back then, only serious oppression or poverty would force people to emigrate. If the problems were more tractable, people stayed and attempted to solve them in situ
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#10It bears emphasizing that Hacker News will likely be forced to geoblock Canadian users if this legislative draft becomes law. It applies extraterritorially and the absurdly large administrative burden and financial penalties for noncompliance will make serving Canadian users untenable.
There is also enough ambiguity in the proposal to worry about the continuing availability of commercial unfiltered VPNs in Canada, at least in the longer term.